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By williamsloan
took this i think last sat the ground to the right is a bit dark any answers

Tags: Landscape and travel

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Jasper87 Plus
8 2.0k 150 England
5 Apr 2012 7:21PM
Hi William, I'm sure you will get some far more technical answers than mine, but in PSE8 (Elements 8) under the "guided" tab there is a section called lighten/darken. I moved the 'lighten the darks' until it looked right. Mod posted for you with the result.


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Fefe Plus
6 23 31 United Kingdom
5 Apr 2012 7:44PM
Hello, Had a go, sadly failed at trying to get rid of the dark area without altering the rest of the exposure in the image, tried to alter in graduation curves, but it altered too much else in the image, so I cropped off the offending shadow and slightly de-saturated as I feel the colours are just a bit too much, just my preference thoughSmile
Trev_B 11 151 68 England
5 Apr 2012 8:17PM
Hi William, another nice shot. To my mind the contrast is a little to dark and there is not enough sea, the old thirds rule is at play again.

In my mod I have adjusted the contrast, lighting and colour correction, but fell most importantly added some sea aligning it with the thirds line.

Well done

Irishkate Plus
7 41 114 United Kingdom
5 Apr 2012 8:29PM
I played with shadows and highlights but to no avail. The patchwork of fields is lovely.sometimes you just have to try another shot. Was it a dark cloud passing over?Get some more of those lovely fields.Kate
Jestertheclown 9 7.7k 252 England
5 Apr 2012 9:29PM
Hi Billy,
Please see my mod.
I isolated the dark bit to the right that you mention using the polygonal lasso, then used the shadows/highlights tool to tweak some life back into it. I then saved that, opened it again and selected just the central part of the same area and did the same again.
I saved that, then opened it and had a go at the same thing with the shadowed section in the top left. This proved less successful and although there does appear to be some detail in there, I just couldn't get to it using this image. Your original RAW, (I assume this used to be RAW?), might give up a bit more.
If you don't want to keep saving and re-opening it, you could always use layers.
All done using CS6.


Edit; I feathered the edge of each selection by 2px. That seems to have worked on this image and at this size (and remember it's a Jpeg,) You'll need to increase that proportionately, or as you see fit, on your original.
mhfore 11 6 176 England
5 Apr 2012 10:55PM
Evening Billy,

You have ceratinly had some good advice on this image from Bren, Kate, Trev, Diane and Dave who have all put their take on the image, good stuff. So here's my mod which I have done in the way I have explained to you before by using the eyedroppers in exposures until I had some more light in the darker area's and then erased it from the rest of your image. Billy I don't think this image sit's quite right and may have been more balanced with a bit more water, I've looked at cropping the sky but to be fair I don't think thats the answer. Ok, I know this is not answered the question asked and I'm not really the technical guy but i'm sure Willie, Frank, Pamela, Paul or Dave etc will be along soon.

Take care

banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3862 Canada
6 Apr 2012 1:38PM
Hi Billy, dont mean to sound trite, but the reason its dark on the right is most likely due to the clouds placing a shadow in that area, nothing else.

You have suggestions on how to balance the light in post processing, but to get the original right you would have to wait for the cloud to move.

Tooth 13 5.8k 227 Ireland
7 Apr 2012 1:33AM
Hi William,

you've had a good bit of input and good advice here, although I'm going to respectfully disagree with some of it and put my own slant on it.

Firstly compositional wise - I would rather think about balance than the "rule" of thirds. To me it's more about interest. Although there's more sky than sea, there's a hell of a lot more interest in the sky than the sea, so it deserves and can sustain being proportionately more than the sea. Having said that, as the sky although interesting isn't amazingly so, the ideal situation would be to have something of interest in the foreground rather than just an expanse of sea - because you can increase or decrease the amount of bland sea, but it's still just bland sea.

Now you might say "but there was nothing of interest in the foreground"... well that's grand, but sometimes you have to accept that a shot isn't going to work because something vital is missing.

Re the exposure: it's a bright contrasty scene with some dark shadowy areas and some bright just about blown out areas of white. It's the kind of scene which can't just be fixed by increasing or decreasing exposure, as the dynamic range is too great - so changes have to be done selectively, as some have suggested above - but the real answer is to shoot in less harsh conditions.

Re the settings - I agree with Focus man re using aperture priority for landscapes - and a wide aperture like F2.8 gives much too narrow a depth of field. In fact as a general rule for landscapes even F8 would tend to be too wide (too small a number) to take in the different levels of interest
and something more like F16 or 18 would be better for a fully layered landscape. However, as in this case there's not really any interest in the foreground, F8 would work quite well.

So it's a fair record shot of a beautiful place, but you need to be looking to raise it from "record shot" to "good interesting pic in its own right" and I know you'll get there..

Hope that doesn't sound too harsh, just my honest thougts


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