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Gormire Lake

By Seamuscamp
This is the view from Whitestone Cliff of sinister Gormire Lake and the Vale of York some 400 feet below. It is early Spring and so, while the fields have recovered well from the hard winter, the tree foliage has yet to emerge. The rain shower on the horizon and the broken cloud cover add variable depth to the colour. I'd particularly like some comment on the level of exposure of the woods.

Tags: Landscape and travel

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banehawi Plus
18 2.7k 4311 Canada
24 Apr 2011 2:50PM
A nice shot overall Seamus, nice scene with foreground interest. I cant tell where the horizon is, so I assume its level, though in the mod Ive rotated it slightly CCW.

I would have used a smaller aperture than 7.1 for a landscape shop, but you seem to have decent depth with what youve used. Its just needs some sharpening to bring in the distant areas.

I find theres a little too much intensity in the blue in the sky, with the whitest parts of the clouds having a small element of blue, which Ive corrected in the mod.

Otherwise a nice shot.


Seamuscamp 13 3 10 United Kingdom
24 Apr 2011 4:24PM
Very helpful Willie.

I agree with you about the blue in the sky, which seems to be worse in .jpg and in Firefox than in Photoshop and in .tif.

As to the horizon, I was in a dilemma - I think the apparent slope is a consequence of different landscape features reflecting light differently and of the shower falling on the rhs horizon. The hills of the Yorkshire Dales further back seem about right to my memory. On the other hand, cranking the image, so that the apparent horizon is level, seems right.

Thanks for the help.

Jestertheclown 13 8.6k 255 England
24 Apr 2011 8:37PM
I looked at the horizon and working on the asumption that the true horizon is the one farthest away, just below the clouds, then it looks straight but I can see where some confusion might creep in.
As Willie has said, the blues are very well, blue (!). In fact it's all a bit too saturated for me but that's only my opinion of course.
I'm no authority on landscapes but apart from the colour, I rather like this. I think it's got a lot going for it.

Seamuscamp 13 3 10 United Kingdom
25 Apr 2011 11:44AM
It is always interesting - and thought provoking - to see through other eyes. While I would concede the loss of bright foliage at the bottom, I'd prefer to keep the tortuous trunk as I feel the bulk of the limestone and tree gives the correct sense of depth. Tot homines, tot sententiae, as we used to say at school.

The question of the correct horizon bothers me. Your mod does give an apparent horizontal; but if you then look at the cloud base, it seems to be tipped up, flying upwards out of the frame. You may be right; Willie may be right; but my suspicion is that the apparent horizon is an effect of light and weather. I will have a closer look when next I go to Sutton Bank.

The far line is actually the hills demarking the Yorkshire Dales. They have a distinct profile, the exact slope of which I can't recall. The rain falling was a good way this side of the horizon, although it seems in the photograph to be part of the horizon. The essence of the problem is that we see in three dimensions but the camera sees in two dimensions.

I'll take aboard your comment about the saturation, although it seems different in the upload than in Photoshop. I guess I'd better do a few versions for printing.

Thank you both for your comment.

Jestertheclown 13 8.6k 255 England
25 Apr 2011 1:52PM

Quote:different in the upload than in Photoshop

A problem I've often faced and it seems to be worse when I'm uploading mods. They rarely look as good once thery're uploaded as they do here, either in PS or viewed on my screen.
I've a feeling the the mods. problem is related to their being resized when I upload them.
It's a subject thst's been discussed in the forums before now and as yet, I haven't heard of as way to prevent or even work around it.
If you were to start a thread asking why your shots look even slightly different here than they do at home, you'll probably get a lanslide of answers and theories relating to how your computer is set up, which colour profiles are you using, is your monitor calibrated etc. All of which are well meaning and some of which might even be helpful but I doubt that you'll find a complete cure.
As for the horizon, I wasn't really sure which bit was which and it seems I wasn't the only one!
Whlst I'd generally accept that he horizon needs to be level, all "rules" are there to be broken and in a case where straightening what we think is the horizon throws something else out. perhaps it's best to compromise?

Hope this helps.


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