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By Bigpoolman
First venture into nature photography. A great crested grebe apparently.

Comments appreciated.

Thanks for looking


Tags: Summer Nature Lakes Wildlife and nature 2017 LeightonMoss

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10 Jul 2017 11:11PM
Well captured.
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
11 Jul 2017 12:43PM
I love the 'apparently' - my feeling precisely.

Technically nailed, I feel: I wonder a little about making it a fraction bigger in the frame.

Others, who know what they're doing with the genre will be along shortly, I reckon, so I'll stop there!
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4233 Canada
11 Jul 2017 2:30PM
Decent shot considering is a tight crop showing quite a bit of noise.

Spot metering = underexposed, so a little brighter, and slightly warmer perhaps as in the mod.
paulbroad 13 131 1293 United Kingdom
11 Jul 2017 2:33PM
Nicely don and adequately sharp. I would leave the composition as is, showing the movement in the water and setting the scene. Exposure well calculated, you obviously know what you are doing in that respect - using spot on manual and not auto settings.

Yes, it is a Great Crested Grebe.

Assume this is the Sigma lens? I had one which was sharp given decent support and sensible use re- shutter speed etc, but mine didn't have stabilisation and was, frankly, hard work and needed f8 to get sharp results, as you have used.

Some strange horizontal lines in the water in out of focus areas? Look like scanning lines but can't be. Is it a very big crop?

11 Jul 2017 6:58PM
Thanks for your comments, I like the mod Willie the extra warmth is an improvement.

It is the 50-500 Sigma at full blast and on a tripod. Using manual, I set the speed and aperture and put the ISO on auto (400 as it happened). Even with a 500 and the 1.6 crop factor of the 50D, I did crop the image. I have attached the original as a mod so you can see how much. Otherwise apart from a little editing in LR (highlights, shadows, clarity and pre-sharpening) its untouched.

Any further comments very welcome, particularly interested in any thoughts on post processing.


dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 768 England
11 Jul 2017 7:58PM
Sharpness is acceptable, and good considering the crop. Many images of birds on here (not just the Critique Gallery) are huge crops and it does show. It's not really obvious here so your technique is spot on which always helps.

It's so easy to crop an image these days, as before digital you had to use fieldcraft to get close. That's in no way a criticism of you or this shot, just a general observation. However, I also understand that it's not always possibl eto get as close as you'd like some of the time.

My preference is to not crop so close to the bird's rear and leave a bit of space, and to have the bird higher in the frame. Others will have different ideas and at least with the view you've captured you do have multiple options.

Apart from Willie's warming and brightening your post processing on this is fine.
11 Jul 2017 9:14PM
Thanks Keith, like that crop better and it gets rid of the slightly distracting blurred lines at the top. We were in a hide at the lake edge so no chance of getting nearer and the grebe was not for heading in our direction either.


paulbroad 13 131 1293 United Kingdom
12 Jul 2017 7:19AM
I know a professional environmentalist with a blogg and some excellent images of birds on it. He has all the right Canon gear too. When questioned about his degree of cropping and sharpening he goes strangely quiet and when you blow his published images up you can see why - huge crops and a lot of sharpening artefacts.

What you can get away with on a relatively small computer image is a world away from a decent A3 print, I find.

dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 768 England
12 Jul 2017 5:27PM
I suspected an uncooperative bird Tim Wink
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
13 Jul 2017 4:46PM
From the original, a different crop, and severe B/W treatment...
14 Jul 2017 4:44PM
Thanks John, now that is certainly different and I hadn't considered B/W. Not sure what I think as the bird's key feature is the coloured crest (well it is in my eyes anyway). I do like the way it brings out the sort of whirlpool effect around the bird. Hmm
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
15 Jul 2017 6:33PM
We all see different things in any given picture. As I am in no way a twitcher, significant details like that go right over my head.

I probably shouldn't suggest colour popping...

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