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By Relic01  
This is another from the same set as Barron. Again, any feedback is welcome. Slightly different pose, I think slightly better result.

Tags: School Portraits and people Collingwood School one light OCF


3oldmen 23 United States
18 Apr 2019 5:42PM
Very nice black and white portrait. Like the close crop.

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banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4083 Canada
18 Apr 2019 9:25PM
The pose is definitely better.

With exactly the same settings as the previous shot, the result is very similar, and therefore the feedback is also similar.

You need a smaller aperture; better eye focus; slightly less light; and a lot sharper.

Tried a mod.


Relic01 8 8 Canada
18 Apr 2019 9:46PM
Thanks Willie, will def use a small aperature
mrswoolybill Plus
13 1.8k 2142 United Kingdom
19 Apr 2019 7:56AM
Yes, much better, though I agree with Willie about aperture.

The difference here though is in the rapport with the subject, there's a much better sense of a two-way exchange. So the image is involving for the viewer.

The fact that the subject is, I think, a little bit older and more mature - that may have helped!
dudler Plus
16 1.0k 1572 England
19 Apr 2019 8:12AM
As I always do - and most others do, as well - I looked at the eyes first, and the lashes are sharp. That makes the aperture work far, far better, but the lack of sharpness in his stubble isn't ideal.

The other thing worth a mention is the glasses, which have gone well! It's really hard to avoid reflections and ugly shadows, and you've done both. The most common problem is a big bright reflection in the lenses, which either requires the light ot be well to the side, as it is here, or that yo uask the subject to put the arms half an inch above their ears, tilting the glasses downwards, and sending reflections downwards.

Overall, this has worked pretty well, I think. Great poster material.
mrswoolybill Plus
13 1.8k 2142 United Kingdom
19 Apr 2019 8:17AM
Good points from John, I forgot to mention the glasses. Here they frame the eyes and of course they also slightly enlarge them. And no reflections!
pamelajean Plus
14 1.3k 2106 United Kingdom
19 Apr 2019 4:04PM
I feel engaged with this one, Mike, as if we are having a conversation. The smiling open mouth suggests to me that he is chatting. I wonder if you were chatting with him whilst shooting, because this helps you to get a nice natural portrait rather than an awkward or posed one.
I like the way he is positioned at a bit of an angle rather than straight-on.

The first thing I noticed was the lack of reflections in his specs, and even thought they might be frames without lenses, just for showSmile.

There is some posterizing in the background and I wonder if you did a bit of tidying up work on it. If not, it might have simply suffered from processing, or downloading.

He is a touch tight in the frame, with some of his lovely locks of hair being clipped (unintentional pun). Just a littler more space either side would have given him some breathing space.

Relic01 8 8 Canada
19 Apr 2019 4:07PM
Thanks Pam, what does this mean? There is some posterizing in the background
dudler Plus
16 1.0k 1572 England
19 Apr 2019 5:12PM
Weird tones and variations, looking a bit like monochrome Newton's rings or contour lines on a map. It often happens when there's a good deal of processing, or if a file is small and highly compressed.

There may be something in there I've missed out.
pamelajean Plus
14 1.3k 2106 United Kingdom
19 Apr 2019 8:36PM

Quote:what does this mean? There is some posterizing in the background

It looks like pixels are breaking up.
It's most noticeable in the bottom right of the frame.

An image can be posterized to enhance it, giving it the look of a poster, and this can be done in editing software.
However, when it appears in a photo and has not been added as an effect, there is often a reason for that.
HERE is an article on the subject.

Wikipedia: "The effect may be created deliberately, or happen accidentally. For artistic effect, most image editing programs provide a posterization feature, or photographic processes may be used.
Unwanted posterization, also known as banding, may occur when the colour depth, sometimes called bit depth, is insufficient to accurately sample a continuous gradation of colour tone. As a result, a continuous gradient appears as a series of discrete steps or bands of colour hence the name. Compression in image formats such as JPEG can result in posterization when a smooth gradient of colour or luminosity is compressed into discrete quantized blocks with stepped gradients."

Thanks, John, for coming in on this subject.

Relic01 8 8 Canada
19 Apr 2019 8:40PM
Good article, thanks folks, I am trying lol
pamelajean Plus
14 1.3k 2106 United Kingdom
19 Apr 2019 8:43PM
You are doing well.
I just edited my comment with a bit of info from Wikipedia.
paulbroad 12 131 1288 United Kingdom
20 Apr 2019 7:38AM
This is better and far more engaging, but you must consider those basics as set out above. Depth of field is inadequate. The eyes must be sharp, and are not far off, but the lack of depth means other prominent areas are out of focus and are obvious, thus distracting.

There are also some strange artefacts as mentioned.


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