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Hatfield Forest 2

By johnnyboy114  
Another shot from my shoot with my friend in Hatifield Forest. Another with single Vivitar 283 at full power, high up left of camera into reflective umbrella, sunlight to the right of camera, f8-9ish. I really quite like this one, but I know you shouldn't be the best judge of your own shots, so happy to take crit and comment as usual.

Tags: Portrait Model Sunlight Flash Fashion Forest Hatfield Portraits and people Flash and lighting

Voters: graceland, Glostopcat, beckas and 28 more

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beckas 14 5 1 United States
27 Apr 2010 4:55PM
This turned out really good. I really enjoyed viewing the entire set on FB and I have to say, I couldn't pick a favourite because you took a lot of great images during this shoot.

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johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
27 Apr 2010 5:02PM
Thanks Becka....I made a mistake in uploading ALL of those images....I didn't mean to but had loads of upload errors and when I eventually had an album, I didn't realise there was over 100 images in there! lol! I deleted loads now, so there are only 12, I think, but yeah, there were a lot. Some weren't so good, but hopefully only uploading the good ones and ones I need feedback on....but thank you Becka, appreciate the comments and glad you like them Smile
User_Removed 10 485 13 England
27 Apr 2010 5:16PM
i love this shot mate honestly. Its a natural relaxed portrait, that is well lit and evenly balanced. Kudos to you mate, mine weren't this good when i started

johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
27 Apr 2010 5:23PM
Wow, thanks Dave. Appreciate that! I really like this one too. I have had to have a play around and spent months reading and watching teaching vids and so on before I decided to actually take the plunge and have a go. I was a bit nervous, but after a bit of playing about, I started to get the hang of it. I did get some real howlers too, but all learning I guess! Helps when you have good models who know what they are doing too! lol!
Morgs 9 20 62 Wales
27 Apr 2010 5:50PM
This is better than yesterday's!! I really like the use of the flash in these sunny conditions. It poses the question in my mind as to whether you have dropped her into a background. That's because the lighting gives this an almost 3D look. But, combined with the bright day, the lack of obvious shadows make for a crisp stylish shot. I think you've nailed this technique!!

johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
27 Apr 2010 5:58PM
lol! No Dave, my PS skills really, really wouldn't enable me to cut and paste her into a backdrop! lol! But I am glad you like the effect...I was really happy with this. I have a few shots from the same location in the forest without the flash, so you will see its! Wink But these few with the lighting I was very pleased with. I have some others lower down in the perspective I will post as the week goes on. There are so many I was pleased with, I dont know which to pick! But hope I have got a handle on the technique now....getting there....glad you like it and appreciate the comment! Thanks! Smile
Richsr 10 91 223 England
27 Apr 2010 7:16PM
Nice work John, the model looks comfortable and relaxed and the lighting has worked well. However for me the sapling to the RHS is not adding a lot it may be better to do a square crop and remove - so it focus you more on the model. I know that crop are a personal thing but this is just a suggestion

Regards Richard
johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
27 Apr 2010 7:17PM
Thanks Richard, appreciate the comment! Glad you like
jools59 8 4 1 United Kingdom
27 Apr 2010 9:34PM
An absolutely superb shot Johnny another one to be proud of me thinks...Jools Smile
TheWanderer 8 20 2 United Kingdom
27 Apr 2010 9:57PM
Nicely done John. Thats one cool model.
Agree with the crop and also (and you know me, over the top Smile ) I would clone out the bird dropping on the stump.
28 Apr 2010 10:05AM
every photo is better than the last, this one looks so professional, i think you have learned a very good lighting technique without too many expensive studio gadgets, very well done!

Quote: I would clone out the bird dropping on the stump.

hehehe... these birds are always creating a mess! I agree.
I can see this picture as a commercial poster for a jeans company or maybe Timberland shoes or jackets
28 Apr 2010 10:06AM
She has such beautiful hair! "envy" Sad
MattyEdwards 11 44 1 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 10:09AM
She is a good natural model and you are capturing here well. Good use of daylight and flash. I would be tempted to drop the power of the flash slightly. I agree the sampling is competing for attention though.

Keep them coming
johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 10:18AM
Thank you Jools, much obliged! Jon, I do know you and I guess you are right on this one.... Wink I will have another look and upload some variations I reckon....
Paola, wow, I wish I could get into advertising! lol! But thats a very nice compliment, thank you! It is a cheap way of doing things, but is quite effective I think. Thank you! The bird mess is a theme here....typical me for missing it! lol! Her hair is very nice too. Has almost a red tint to the blonde. Its very pretty.
Matty, I would agree with the flash, but by fully adjustable ones weren't powerful enough at all, even on full power, yet although the 283's are VERY powerful, they aren't adjustable, with only 4 power settings. The next power level down didn't register, even at wide open for that lens, so I had to compromise. The drop off for the sunlight was really quite sharp too, so had to get in close, hence the slight blow out. Was a bit annoyed when I got them back on the computer as they looked reasonable on my camera, even on the histogram, but you're right, there is definitely a touch of blow on the face, which is annoying.
Can I ask what you mean by sampling competing for attention though? I am being a bit! Smile

Another one coming this afternoon....might make it a "non flash" shot this time....see what you think..... Smile
28 Apr 2010 10:33AM
I think he means sapling? the little tree on the right of the picture, I found it on the dictionary Wink now i know a new word!! Smile
johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 10:35AM
AHHHH!!! Thank you Paola! See....what a place eh? Not only good pictures, but educational too! lol! Speaking English every day, I just didn't see that......right, good point! I am going to try and do some crops and edits later and upload them.....

Question to everyone......if I upload variations to this image, do they count as your one upload for the day or can you upload another image separately.....? I would like to upload another image later, but also want to have a play with variations on this as well......
MattyEdwards 11 44 1 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 12:17PM
I did indeed mean sapling, my hand, eye, keyboard skills are not all there today
johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 1:12PM
lol! No worries, I am going to try something later, just hope I can upload another new image as well as variations on this one Smile
johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 5:12PM
I have now uploaded a "square" version to compare against the original. I like it actually and see what you all mean....let me know what you think please? Smile
TheWanderer 8 20 2 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 5:36PM
Yep that definitely works better. I would upload it separately to get more attention, which i think this will. Smile
johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 6:21PM
You think? I might do that towards the end of this series then and see what happens. Really?!
TheWanderer 8 20 2 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 6:40PM
If it doesn't then i'll take a pic of my backside and put it on the gallery. Now that should get the attention. Smile Maybe get me into the club. Wink
johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 7:06PM
lol! Nope, wouldn't do that......bad things happened last time someone did! Wink
TheWanderer 8 20 2 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 7:25PM
lol Smile
Richsr 10 91 223 England
28 Apr 2010 8:39PM
Think the square crop works well with this one Johnny.
Regards Richard
johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2010 9:01PM
Thanks Richard, if it wasn't for the advice I wouldn't have seen it or done it, so thanks you and thanks all for that. But agree, yeah, works...
29 Apr 2010 10:06AM
I also agree it is better cropped we pay more atention on the beautiful model without the distraction of the sapling (hehe i love using the new word now) great job i also agree that if you will repost it in the future it will get more atention.
oh yoiu even cleaned the bird poop! it is also a good modification
johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
29 Apr 2010 10:15AM
lol! Thanks Paola....the bird poop had to go! lol! But yeah, the mod does make a big difference and I wouldn't have seen it if it wasn't for all the advice. Glad you like this better! Thanks you! Smile
Ridgeway 11 222 2 Ireland
30 Apr 2010 2:48AM
N,2 for me but do like both shots,

johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2010 7:25AM
Cheers Aidan! Appreciated!
tommythecat 11 149 2 United Kingdom
5 May 2010 6:36PM
Excellent series! We rushed out to Hatfield Forest the other day just to see what it was like without planes overhead all the time..

Agree the tighter crop works well. Have attached a slightly moodier mod.

johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
5 May 2010 8:31PM
Cheers Tommy! Appreciate the comment! And I like the mod, a lot more gritty, like it. Cheers! Oh and it was just when the flights started back up....was bit miffed by that as thought a completely spotless sky would have been nice.....doesn't happen very often!
studioline 8 72 4 United Kingdom
27 May 2010 11:15PM
Not for me Johnny. I feel that shadows add the dimension into an image.
74tash 9 Australia
12 Oct 2010 3:37PM
It has all been said... I can learn something from every post... Thanks you!

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