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I am Different

By TornadoTys
Another photo from my holiday to Vietnam a years ago. Sorry no Raw file to play with.

Tags: Class Portraits and people


cats_123 Plus
16 5.0k 30 Northern Ireland
25 Jun 2017 9:59PM
Great candid 😁

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pablophotographer 9 1.6k 380
26 Jun 2017 6:29AM
the original picture reveals the girl who knows all the songs by heart, she doesn't hold a lyrics book!
TornadoTys 5 127 United Kingdom
26 Jun 2017 8:45AM
They all have different lyric books ! Ha
dudler Plus
16 1.2k 1679 England
26 Jun 2017 10:10AM
My main thought is that including all of hte hands would really make it easier to view.

Other than that, I like your crop, the snap you've added in processing, and the way that three girls look to the right, and the fourth girl acts as a sort of visual bookend.
banehawi Plus
16 2.2k 4149 Canada
26 Jun 2017 1:21PM
Original shot is good, and youve improved it.

Perhaps it may work with 5 rather than four ladies in the crop, with exposure increased, shadows lifted, and a warmer tone; those uniforms are more of an olive colour I think?


TornadoTys 5 127 United Kingdom
26 Jun 2017 9:31PM
Hi banehawl,

again some good advise as I agree the photo needs some warmth to the scene.
My version is a bit too cool.
mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.2k 2247 United Kingdom
27 Jun 2017 6:26PM
Beautifully observed and timed. I love it, and I am happy to stick with your crop. An uneven number works better generally than an even number but you have created a balance between two uneven numbers, three and one. \that works.

The slight downside is the clipped hands at the bottom. It is worth taking just those couple of seconds more to settle yourself into the composition, look around and check.
TornadoTys 5 127 United Kingdom
27 Jun 2017 8:16PM
Hello mrswoolybill,

the shot was at full zoom on my sigma 17-70mm APSC lens, hence why I believe the hands have been clipped slightly....
Plus it was a quick shot as well.

Thanks for you comments

dudler Plus
16 1.2k 1679 England
28 Jun 2017 8:51PM
Advice, which I know of, and sometimes observe: before shooting, look all roudn the viewfinder to check the edges.

You'd have an excuse if you were at the wide end, and couldn't go wider - part of trianing yourself to shoot by instinct is allowing a little margin for error, and cropping a bit if you need to. Far easier than adding on, as you need to if you go to the longest setting. Or you could jsut back off a fraction. I suspect most zoom lenses are used for 70% of shots at either the widest or longest setting...

TornadoTys 5 127 United Kingdom
29 Jun 2017 8:14PM
Hi dudler,

the lens I used at the time was Sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4.5 which it design for APS-C canon DSLR's. I now use a Canon EF24-105L IS USM lens which gives me a crop factor of 60%
Giving me a new reach in APS-C terms of 168mm. So for street and candid shots this is great as I have so much more reach. Down side is any subject that is very close I have to stand a fair distance back, i.e museum shoots.
So future shots I can crop in and not cut of peoples hands,...ha !
dudler Plus
16 1.2k 1679 England
30 Jun 2017 10:22AM
I have to be honest, and say I still don't really get zooms. I understand the convenience idea, but I enjoy using a series of fixed focal length lenses, and so I am, perhaps, more used than most people to stepping backwards and forwards to frame precisely...
TornadoTys 5 127 United Kingdom
7 Jul 2017 12:05PM
I would love to get a few prim lens for good Bokeh and that are fast. Of course there is a money issue and for holiday photo trips, days out a really good walk around lens is needed. For studio or staged shoots out side I would love to use prime lens.
What would be the best selection to have for an organised shoot. I was was thinking about maybe 35 or 50 f 1.4 and 85mm f2.8 ! ?
dudler Plus
16 1.2k 1679 England
11 Jul 2017 9:58AM
With apologies for the delay...

It depends, entirely, on what you shoot, and your personal vision...

On full frame, I tend to use an 85mm f/1.4 around 70% of the time, with 50mm and 24mm following on for my usual stuff. Travelling the last week or so, I've used the 24mm a lot, and a 35mm, though the 85mm has still been in evidence. For APS-C, that's a 50mm most, with a 24 and an 18, or thereabouts.

But that's me, and I do a lot of studio and portrait shots. I would suggest getting a secondhand 50mm, though, for anyone using APS-C - so versatile, cheap, and small compared with zooms. For Canon, there's even a new f/1.8 at a reasonable price...

You need to beware, a little - all wide-aperture lenses will give good differential focus, but some may give poor Bokeh (technically, it's defined as the quality of the defocussed areas - smooth and creamy is good, patterned is poor: but what you like rules all!)
TornadoTys 5 127 United Kingdom
13 Jul 2017 4:04PM
I would love to have a few primes like a 50mm f1.8 and the 85mmL f1.2
.There are some cheap 50mm primes I am hoping to get a used one in the near future.
dudler Plus
16 1.2k 1679 England
13 Jul 2017 6:46PM
Actually, yes - there's a Chinese clone of the Canon 50/1.8. The 85/1.2 - a real beast of a lens - I use a Zeiss 85/1.4, and the Canon lens is too big and heavy for me... The Canon 85/1.8 is sweet, and one of the cheapest lenses Canon make. Excellent value.

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