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mohikan22 14 2.3k 2 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 9:15AM
I like it but imo i would just pop (with colour)the eye to make it stand a little more.

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6 Aug 2010 9:28AM
Very interesting portrait!
W1ldside 7 29 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 9:39AM
Finding a different angle on one's Art is highly desirable and indeed Inspiring Tony but although the model is a beautiful apparition I personally ( Oh ****! Here we go...) find the Image is neither High Key/ Low key or correct?
It appears very flat on my screen with no contrast at all and does very little for the Beauty beyond.
Probably get a few eyes rolling Tony but I feel we as photographers on this site are going no where without independant but more to the point Honest comments ~ A photograph and Image for me has to evoke a reaction of immense emotion to obtain a response of passion and inspiration and appreciation, of which your studio dance portraits have but this recent line leaves me cold and deflated ....
I have commented as above Tony as requested and mean nothing derogatory to your usual Compelling and Inspirational work.

Kind Regards
6 Aug 2010 9:40AM
Brilliant! I love the high key effect
cassiecat 9 39 46 England
6 Aug 2010 9:49AM
really like the pose and the desaturated look emphasises the eye and lips beautifully. the hair does looks alittle flat.lesley
Tonyd3 Plus
13 1.0k 17 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 9:52AM
Bingo, thanks very much Rick, i have notice of late that no one seems to want to make really good critique on here.

I really dont mind anyone telling me this is rubbish otherwise i can not move forward, im trying some new manipulations in the hope of finding something i can call a style that is recognisable.

I am so pleased you have said what you have Rick.

Tonyd3 Plus
13 1.0k 17 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 10:13AM
Let me give you a little background to this image it may help to move it forward.

This is taken against a white wall with ambient light filling in from both sides, i was very close to the model with a 24-70mm lens no more than 3 feet away at best, i used an ORBIS ringflash on the camera mounted SB900 set in TTL in balanced fill mode at 250th sec at f2.8 with auto white balance in manual mode adjusting only the EV setting on flash to correct the exposure. This is a tried and tested methord that works very well for weddings etc.

I have yet to take to the ringflash as it does flatten the image if you dont have light coming from other directions hence the reason for TTL in balanced fill mode. What i should have done in hind sight is add two more flashguns behind on both left and right sides to give some depth.

The manip is several layers filled with white adjusting the opacity and blending modes with layer masks to cut out the parts i want to keep, some layers are blured some are not.

Some Dodge and Burn is then applied as required to the eyes and other areas.
W1ldside 7 29 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 10:23AM
Thanks Tony ~ Of late I too have noticed the lack of truthful responses to uploads in the hope of obtaining that additional vote of which, on initially joining EPZ, I was guilty of to the point of wanting my own work to be up there with the best...
However, of late I am confident in saying EPZ and it's following of several gifted artists has truly inspired and rekindled my own standard of Images to the point where I am actively taking Photographs every day with a passion to advance and so the votes are irrelevant compared to the Inspiration now instilled.
I personally will continue now to peruse the Gallery of EPZ as a means of enjoyment and leave constructive comments and in line a vote on images that have drawn an emotive response good or bad regardless of the reciprocated voting method clearly used on site...
Apologies Tony on using your Upload for today to air opinions that you have bought to the fore but think your point about not being able to progress without honesty is only too true and false voting is of no consequence in this forward thinking approach.
Good luck with your own creativity for the future Tony.
Regards Rick (Phew!)
As they say 'you can't win em all', however I do think there is real potential in the image, look forward to see how you progress with this treatment.........Joe
BobFancy 9 11 4 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 11:20AM
I'm not sure if this comment is of any use but I really like it, its a great image and the high key effect works for me.
Dennis_Bromage 10 45 20 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 11:39AM
I'm not qualified to offer any sort of constructive critique on this sort of image but from a purely personal point of view I REALLY like it. The model is obviously stunning which helps but I do love the subtlety of the image and the way you're drawn to her very beautiful eye. For me at least it all hangs together perfectly.

If you want really honest constructive critiques try the Critique Gallery. I'm loving it in there as people seem much more comfortable giving honest feedback. I think a big part of it is that in the normal gallery you feel obliged to leave a vote if you comment so it can feel uncomfortable making negative comments. In the critique galley the complication of votes is removed so people feel more comfortable saying what they really think. Just a thought but it's working for me Smile
rontear Plus
14 8 8 England
6 Aug 2010 12:17PM
The eye has it Tony, excellent approach to portraiture. Ron.
Richsr 10 91 223 England
6 Aug 2010 12:37PM
Like your possessing in this Tony, for me this is about the eye which holds your attention, and it works but then the more you look you see the hair that cuts across the eye and for me I think that would be better clones out.
Regards Richard
Tonyd3 Plus
13 1.0k 17 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 12:56PM
Thanks alot everyone im really appriciating the comments, funny i notice the hair after i uploaded and not while processing the image.
May be im being more objective after a nights sleep!!!!!

Thanks all please keep them coming.
User_Removed 14 17.9k 8 Norway
6 Aug 2010 1:25PM
Excellent High Key image (Wink) Like it immensely - the eye completes the composition perfectly.
dathersmith 10 559 12 England
6 Aug 2010 2:33PM
Bang on the mark for me Tony. I can see where Rick is coming from but I think its the subtlety of the image that attracts me to it, great eye contact and I like the hint of colour in the lips. I can also agree with Richards point about the hair across the eye looking better cloned out but in a way it frames the eye if that makes sense. Anyway that's what I'd say if it was my image as I wouldn't have the skill to clone the hair out.

Looking forward to more like this.

Tonyd3 Plus
13 1.0k 17 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 3:10PM
Hi Darren

thanks for your comments, i would not clone it out but it is simple to do set the clone tool at a very low opacity, say 5% adjust the blending modes to lighten or darken dependent on which area you are doing and use a feathered brush building it up in strokes.
It really is easy that way.

I would use the background colours of the eyes with a soft feathered brush at about 3% opacity going over it gently till you can not see it. using blending modes of lighten or darken hue or colour dependent on the locations. build it up in stages the finish off with the healing tool at say 3-5 pixels. hope this helps

dathersmith 10 559 12 England
6 Aug 2010 3:57PM
Thanks for the advice Tony, I'll give it a go on an image of mine to try it out.
Eviscera 11 1.1k 149 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 6:46PM
Good advice about putting it the shark pool , erm Critique gallery I mean !

Its a stunner for sure mate , but the cheek under her hair seems oddly mis-shapen and Im sure you can see some smudgies round the lips.

I dont think its the brush opacity , 3% is good , perhaps the flow was a bit strong.

Last vote I get from you then lol.

6 Aug 2010 7:41PM
I really like this Tony... I don't think it looks flat as the processing and lighting attract the viewer to the eye along with the natural framing of the hair

Tonyd3 Plus
13 1.0k 17 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 9:27PM
Thanks all for your comments each one is very much appriciated except for you DAVE, anyway you need to put one up first as i voted on the last one.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Eviscera 11 1.1k 149 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2010 10:29PM
All in good taste mate. Soz.
Tonyd3 Plus
13 1.0k 17 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2010 5:45AM
Me to Dave so i hope you have not taken my comment the wrong way. sometimes being "dry with our sense of humor" does come out in the wrong way, my comment could be misread if you dont know my "SOH", for that, i sincerly applogise. Smile

Shark pool it is then Smile
johnnyboy114 9 231 106 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2010 10:04AM
Tony, I always hope I leave "critique" to an image that is hopefully encouraging or helpful....I cannot and will not comment on anything that is PS/LR related as my skills are next to nothing compared to someone like yourself and some of the other advanced/pro/top level togs on this site. It would be like trying to tell Eddie Van Halen how to play guitar when I all I can do is play Guitar Hero! So, I wouldn't dare. But my photos are aspiring to get better and better and I would like to take everything to another level and photos like this are a higher inspiration to myself and hopefully others on this site. Some may see things that others don't, which I feel has happened here. But there is nothing wrong in that, as thats the beauty and nature of photography. I know what I like, I can't say I know what everyone else likes, so I won't argue with any of the critique on here. But what I will say is that when I opened this image up, I was, frankly, quite blown away by it. I don't give "buttered up" comments to gather votes on my own photos....I know my own stuff isn't good enough and don't get that many votes anyway, so bugger that.....whats the point? But I WILL give comments that I feel are worth giving if I find an image inspirational.....and for me, this is one of them. Ok, there may be points that can be picked up, but for me, when you look at the image as whole, those things are things that can be dealt with and the image, on first impact, is really quite special. The eye makes it for me. Its tack sharp, it has a wonderful contact and beams out from under the hair. The lens may be the reason there is a lack of "depth" in the image and I guess, stating the obvious, changing to a longer lens might fix this. But when you look at it, with the tones, the colours (or lack of) and the DOF that it has at a micro level, its trully a staggering image. Just utterly wonderful and I for one, if I had taken this, I would have been bouncing off the ceiling......take this "crit" as you like, but for me, this is very, very special indeed. Nice one Tony, I hope to take images like this one day.....
Tonyd3 Plus
13 1.0k 17 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2010 12:50PM
Thank Johnny, i really enjoy your critiques, they always inspire me to to better with mine, i have never been good with words or with a pencil or pen, and can not draw to save my life, i dont alway get it right which is what i think i was trying to prove here.

Thanks Johnny.
franfoto 10 2 32 England
7 Aug 2010 9:25PM
I find this kind of processing very appealing and for this reason was attracted to this image instantly, I do however find the couple of 'hot spots' on the background are tending to spoil the overall effect. Other than that, It has inspired me to experiment with a few of my own in a similar way, and for that, you get my vote.
Great looking model by the way.
FeatherFriend Plus
10 38 217 England
8 Aug 2010 11:14AM
Hi Tony, my shots are mainly wildlife so technically I know nothing about this field of photography. However, when I first opened the shot and viewed large I have to say I was immediately very impressed. If I do at some time decide to have a go at something similar this is what I would be aiming for,
DanielD 8 1 United Kingdom
17 Aug 2010 3:42PM
Great shot - interestig vision and very fine manipulation - Congrats


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