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By BrianHenry    
And Her Son says to the Lord,
“If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?
And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire,
and thou shalt rule over him.” Genesis 4:7

Eve is influence to gain knowledge and it leaves her stigmatically discontent. This discontentment is passed down to her sons who will find themselves in their own pursuit of veracity.

from the series 'How To Use The Bible To Get What You Want.'

Tags: Portrait Back Woman Church Eve Genesis Bible God Bare Monochromatic Religon Portraits and people

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iancrowson Plus
8 211 146 United Kingdom
2 Aug 2013 1:53PM
Photographically OK, the image is spoilt in my view by the shadows falling on the model's shoulder and the busy background.
Both the title and the text are lost on me. I can see books including a dictionary but the photo does not seem to have any religious connections.
There are a lot of distractions in the background. Maybe a little more contrast, it's a bit grey.
Perhaps if you want to get over a message about bible reading with a photo them a shot of a model reading a bible, perhaps a finger marking a passage and paying rapt attention might work.
As this is the ePhotozine Critique Gallery it would be better to give a description of your aims when taking the photo and give some sort of hints on what advice you need photographically.
I would prefer to save religion and politics for speaker's corner. This is a photography site.

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mikehit 8 8.0k 13 United Kingdom
2 Aug 2013 2:23PM
I have to agree - I acannot see the relevance of the title (and commentary) to the image because she is not even looking at the books: her posture is less one of seeking knowledge as someone who is upset.
banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3866 Canada
2 Aug 2013 2:30PM
Another image in a series that when seen together have some relevance. Doesnt stand alone well.

paulbroad 10 123 1238 United Kingdom
2 Aug 2013 9:01PM
The quality here has issues. Patchy lighting and the usual comment. Meaningless without the text, but then very tenuous link indeed. If these images were all shown together they would not link. Colour, mono? You need to be consistent technically in a set.

2 Aug 2013 11:36PM
Thank for you the comments! Duly noted and really appreciated Smile

The aim of the series is to observe and analyze the significance of The Bible by illustrating a contemporary parallel; the words are meant to be displayed with the images, not as a statement but less like a train of thought making bible references.

This images for example is illustrating a girl resting in front of a bookshelf which simply represents Eve and the apple tree. The Previous image was her awakening to an Eden, but she doesn't see it in the same way Adam does.

the images are meant to be displayed together, however, I don't want the images to have a religious aesthetic (no iconography). nor do I want the series to be visually cohesive. Annoying I know, but it is for a reason. These influences are very old and is constantly changing visually. By having a broad spectrum of aesthetics I hope to make the concept stronger, which is why the text is just as important.

I hope it clears things a bit, I'd very much like to share the rest of the series for much needed feedback. I'll also keep in mind to give a bit more direct context.
mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1918 United Kingdom
3 Aug 2013 5:05PM
I've just spent a long time on the previous upload. I do understand what this is about - seven years in a convent school did that for me. Knowledge, or more precisely self-knowledge, brings the fall from grace and innocence. Books are knowledge, dangerous things.
But I'll repeat a bit of my previous comment - I'm finding these uploads irritatingly interesting, a relief from the Biblical plague of butterflies that has afflicted the site. But while a cohesive narrative makes a change here, we and you have to ask - would the images stand up on their own two feet without it? You may not feel that they need to. But this relies far too heavily on words for me. It should make our brains work but it doesn't make the imagination work.
You're telling us what to think, what to read into the image, and that in itself has a long doctrinal pedigree; but I suspect that you are doing this is because you don't trust the image to carry the narrative unaided.
Sooty_1 7 1.5k 221 United Kingdom
3 Aug 2013 11:29PM
Whilst I can see what you are trying to do, I'm not sure it's really coming off.
There are two things that occur to me: one, that maybe the text is all a bit too deep and convoluted (and indeed, grammatically incorrect for such complex language). If it were simpler, more people might read and comprehend the pictures.
Two, there needs to be more direct correspondence with what is happening in the picture, so perhaps simpler concepts would translate more easily. If you only comprehend the image by comprehending the text, it makes it difficult to see it having much appeal, apart from among religious iconography academics.

The main impression I get from this is seediness, and perhaps a sense of recoiling from violation.

5 Aug 2013 1:51AM
My overriding impression is a slightly disturbing misogynistic feel to the series of photographs. Other than being exposed correctly the images individually say very little to me. I 'm not sure this is even the place for them in this form. They remind me of the agony aunt photo serial. If they are designed to encourage philosophical debate the image should do this on it's own merit. Then the impact of the image could be critiqued not the philosophy behind it.

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