Inter allia

By mrswoolybill
Among the onions...
A little exercise in comparison here. My instinct is always to focus on the foreground, that's what we can relate to, reach out and touch... But there was a recent article on the site about lead-in techniques - mostly very good ideas, but it included a suggestion to use blur as a lead-in. The version more or less replicates the effect illustrated in the article, and it doesn't work as well for me, it creates a barrier. But others may see differently.
Taken in the gardens at Seaton Delaval Hall.
Thanks for looking,

Tags: Flowers and plants Childhood Seaton Delaval Hall

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21 Jan 2020 7:39AM
V1 for me, Moira.
21 Jan 2020 7:40AM
You're right, it doesn't work. Stupid idea, frankly.
mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.6k 2575 United Kingdom
21 Jan 2020 7:50AM
Thanks for opinions, I've added a link to the description above.
21 Jan 2020 8:05AM
I think the linked example works mainly because the distant face is looking at the camera and the near one isn't, and it's more to do with that than with the differential focus.
Others, as you say, may see it differently.
saltireblue Plus
12 13.5k 83 Norway
21 Jan 2020 8:37AM
In your two images; the lead image tells me you want us to focus our attention on the foreground plants, and that was your main area of interest. The out of focus figures are merely to add to the composition, filling an otherwise empty, boring space in the frame. Interest added, but not the focus of our attention.
In the version, the foreground is very much secondary and we may not even notice it at all as the eye is instantly drawn to the main subjects of interest, the people. The out of focus foreground plants are merely a way of framing the main are of interest.
viscostatic 16 50 11 United Kingdom
21 Jan 2020 8:47AM
Two very different images certainly. I prefer the lead simply because the child is showing so much interest in the plants.

mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.6k 2575 United Kingdom
21 Jan 2020 8:48AM
Interesting thoughts. I was mainly interested in the allium seed heads. Meanwhile interesting things were happening in the background. I wanted to leave the figures as background, part of the bigger (or perhaps smaller) picture.
cats_123 Plus
18 5.1k 31 Northern Ireland
21 Jan 2020 9:02AM
I find the figures in the lead a slight distraction, v1 allows the viewer to choose where they look 😁
Vambomarbleye 5 153 14 Scotland
21 Jan 2020 9:43AM
I think both actually work, but I find the lead far more appealing. I think, however, that itís totally subjective.
leo_nid 5 12
21 Jan 2020 10:07AM
i, too, think it depends on quite a lot of things and is "totally subjective"... both shot here work fine for me, each in its own way..
21 Jan 2020 10:09AM
My brain hurts ... I'll have a think about this and get back to you when I've charged up the brain cell. BlushBlushBlush Wink
Saastad 3 16 17 Norway
21 Jan 2020 10:29AM
Nice work Moira! I like the lead shot!

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clicknimagine Plus
13 1.1k 105 India
21 Jan 2020 10:55AM
Blur foreground can be used as a framing (the intention of framing is to lead the eye to the subject) but it can't itself be used as a lead in unless there is something extra element like repetition of shape or pattern etc, otherwise a blur foreground can easily form a distraction...Both the images works for me...
danbrann 18 640 17
21 Jan 2020 11:09AM
Some interesting comments. I think i will just sit on the fence.
TrevBatWCC Plus
14 13 19 England
21 Jan 2020 11:32AM
You know your onions, Moira! 🧅😀 Both work well, but I go for the lead as my fave 👍
Re your comment on my 'Scaliger Tombs' upload yesterday, yes you're right, it was rather confined around there. I was stood as far back as I could, and to use my zoom lens, would only have got half the scene in! The actual fisheye shot as taken included even more, but using the conversion to ultrawide-angle the software removes quite a bit from the curved edges in straightening it, but it still does a good job in allowing good coverage 👍
Trev 😀
21 Jan 2020 2:54PM
OK, here goes 🙂 Prefer the lead image. The overall composition tells us that this is a place of interest where visitors can relax. The out of focus figures in the background tell us that it is also somewhere to learn, to question, and to wonder. We might even get to splash about in our wellies so it's a fun place too. Not that I would of course, far too boring 🤢
mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.6k 2575 United Kingdom
21 Jan 2020 4:42PM
I think Alistair has come nearest to expressing how I read this. Thanks everyone, it's been an interesting day.
JuBarney Plus
11 36 6 United Kingdom
21 Jan 2020 5:26PM
V1 for me too.
I suppose it depends what is in the FG and what is behind.
taggart Plus
18 47 15 United States
21 Jan 2020 6:31PM
Me--- I would have made two images--one to highlight the plant, the other, the figures as they tell a different story...
LoryC 6 2 Italy
21 Jan 2020 8:37PM
Interesting exercise Moira, I also agree on the two different stories,
the lead is about the plants in the gardens and the version is about
people enjoying their visit.

dudler Plus
19 2.0k 1974 England
21 Jan 2020 11:12PM
Child vs. seedhead.

The child has an advantage...
hrsimages 9 1 Germany
27 Jan 2020 7:06AM
I think this is perhaps a technique borrowed from film. Yes the figure(s) is/are the subject but detail is deliberately blurred out to create a bit more mystery to the screen image. I think it is about how much is revealed and how the imagination is stimulated. For this reason I find your lead image the most effective.

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