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By markst33    
I have been trying to incorporate some dodging and burning into my portraits. There seems to be many different ways of doing this other than just using the dodge and burn tools in photoshop. The technique I have been trying is where you create 2 curves adjustment layers, one made darker and one made lighter and then you put an inverted mask on each of them..

Then you brush in at a flow of about 10% the darks and lights as you see fit. One thing I am curious about is do people do dodging and burning before or after Frequency separation ?

This image is from a shoot about 2 years ago. Its amazing how you can look through a bunch of images immediately after a shoot and decide that you are not interested in a particular image, yet when you come back to them a few months or years later a completely different shot is the one that grabs your attention.

As usual all constructive C&C's welcome.

Mark.

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GrinGrinGrinGrin
femape 4 Argentina
12 Apr 2018 4:45PM
Estupendas, luz y expresión.
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1877 England
12 Apr 2018 8:48PM
This is my kind of portrait. I want to trim the sides a fraction, and maybe bring up the shadows a little. Nothign else. Transfixing gaze.
banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4263 Canada
12 Apr 2018 9:16PM
Better for us if we had the version you started out with to compare.

re the process, - I for one have never used frequency separation in my life. I would dodge and burn only on the finished product.
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1877 England
13 Apr 2018 6:59AM
And to answer the question: I don't do frequency separation. I dodge and burn on the image, and might do it right at the end, or before a mono conversion, depending on which way the wind is blowing, and hwo soon I noticed the need: it's simply what I did in the darkroom, conceptually simple.

Why make anything complicated to begin with? It always gets MORE complicated later on...
paulbroad 14 131 1293 United Kingdom
15 Apr 2018 8:33AM
I don't even know what frequency separation is! Sometimes the technical side can be overdone. This is a strong portrait but you do have burn out in two places in the hair due to the strong side light. I have no problem with that side light but you needed a half to one stop less exposure. I doubt if those areas will burn in - looks like the detail has gone.

Paul
iancrowson Plus
11 215 168 United Kingdom
15 Apr 2018 4:21PM
A strong portrait. As Paul says some of the hair appears burnt out. Did you intend this effect? If not you need to think about exposure if the highlights cannot be recovered in RAW processing. I would have thought that starting off with a little less exposure to catch all the hair details and then using the shadows slider in RAW (and photoshop if needed) to expose as much shadow detail you want to show.
As regards dodging maybe a little on the eye and light side of face but you would not be able to burn back
detail in the hair. It seems ok to have skin area more less burnt out but not hair but really it's down to you unless a judge (hi Paul) is involved, then no burnt out areas, no hidden shadows!!
Frequency separation might help, not something I've found a need for. I'll have to try it.
regards
Ian

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