Jonathan and Jonathan

By mrswoolybill
I'm returning to the West Road Cemetery volunteers this week. (The story of the cemetery is here.) I have spent two mornings with them, always conscious of the fact that they had more important things to do than oblige the camera.
I was aiming to photograph the characters, but also the character of the location. The pictures are for an online slide show on community activities, planned for later this summer. Trying to show that community life has continued, although mainly unseen.
I suggested that Jonathan lean nonchalantly against the headstone, then I read the inscription... It's actually quite a curious memorial if you look closely...
Thanks for looking,
Moira

Tags: Photo journalism Black and white Portraits and people Community photography

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SUE118 Plus
13 8 1 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 7:12AM
Super shot and the stone writing rather interesting and mysterious.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2459 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 7:13AM
Thanks early birds and thanks to Edward for the UA
EG Plus
12 24 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 7:14AM
Great shot and story, nice to see a community these days, still too short on people like Jonathan. We'll done to both of you. Detail and framing superb Moira.
Ed
14 Jun 2021 7:18AM
What a stunning example of the Stoemason's trade!
14 Jun 2021 7:42AM
You'd pay quite a few quid for that these days.
cats_123 Plus
17 5.1k 30 Northern Ireland
14 Jun 2021 8:35AM
Excellent capture 😁
bliba Plus
15 2 Austria
14 Jun 2021 8:39AM
excellent
mistere Plus
8 8 4 England
14 Jun 2021 8:40AM
Strange coicidences happen a lot in graveyards. They are fascinating places.
14 Jun 2021 8:58AM
An excellent image for an excellent project, Moira.

RichardSmile
14 Jun 2021 9:07AM
great light and tones for this scene and a fine grin from Jonathan
an excellent shot
bluesandtwos 11 525 1 England
14 Jun 2021 9:11AM
Two wives??? Probably what killed him! GrinGrinGrin
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2459 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 9:22AM

Quote:Two wives??? Probably what killed him! GrinGrinGrin

Dave has picked up on the anomaly on the gravestone. I think it's the same wife, mentioned twice. It seems to me that when Jonathan Miles died, his wife simply decided to promote her own family name above his, naming herself as the grieving widow. Her date of death was added rather clumsily when she died 31 years later.
Thanks folks, and Happy Monday.
ZenTony Plus
5 8 1 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 9:52AM
Generally our cemeteries are quite quite poor when compared to some on the Continent. I went round one in Montparnasse a few years back where Jean Paul Sartre and Albert Citroen are buried. What an amazing place that is.
Good to see that your local one is being cared for Moira and so good to see that local people care enough.
Tony
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2459 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 9:59AM
Montparnasse is good. Alfred Dreyfus, victim of a notorious case of anti-Semitism is also buried there. And there's a section with the unmarked graves of guillotined criminals.
Passy is also interesting, and much less well known. It's in the snooty 16th arrondissement, it has the couturiers, parfumiers, and also quite a few pioneers of various descriptions - rich kids who could afford to fly or race fast cars in the early days...
ZenTony Plus
5 8 1 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 10:07AM

Quote:Montparnasse is good. Alfred Dreyfus, victim of a notorious case of anti-Semitism is also buried there. And there's a section with the unmarked graves of guillotined criminals.
Passy is also interesting, and much less well known. It's in the snooty 16th arrondissement, it has the couturiers, parfumiers, and also quite a few pioneers of various descriptions - rich kids who could afford to fly or race fast cars in the early days...



My favourite at Montparnasse was some artist's grave. The relatives had left an easel, erected with his hat plonked on the top. On the ground was a jar just filled with old brushes. It said everything !
mac Plus
20 13 Scotland
14 Jun 2021 10:37AM
A very up-market looking gravestone along with a proud workman, who is keeping the weeds at bay. It is good that there are people, who are willing to give their time for such projects.
Ian
KingBee Plus
15 554 2 Scotland
14 Jun 2021 10:51AM
I really must learn to take time to read things properly. When I first studied the inscription, for whatever reason I completely overlooked the reference to Jonathan Miles and was seeing the date of death as that of Mary Beavan. Then, when I read "also Mary, wife of the above", I thought: golly, they must have had to keep that quiet!

I think my brain may be wired .... differently. SmileSmile
cooky Plus
17 6 5 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 10:53AM
Excellent image and what synchronicity. Jonathan looks alive and kicking thank goodness.

Kath
TrevBatWCC Plus
13 13 19 England
14 Jun 2021 11:20AM
That's one impressive headstone! It is rather intriguing is the wording on it; Mary is first mentioned as being the wife of Jonathan, then again it's also dedicated to Mary when she died 👍
A super composition and capture, Moira, wonderful quality mono work too 😃
Trev 😀
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2459 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 11:30AM
Thanks Trev for the UA!
14 Jun 2021 11:56AM
Jonathan looks a nice friendly soul...the living one that is! Wink

Yes, its the same here with regard to the local cemetery. There has been talk recently of the council giving up maintenance of the old one - which is where I like to go to photograph and also for a bit of peace and quiet...its got character. So, it might be the same scenario with volunteers having to keep it nice in future! Cut backs!!

I like your composition - lovely lighting...Smile
RonDM Plus
6 211 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 12:00PM
Great picture, a good project with excellent results

Ron
saltireblue Plus
11 12.2k 76 Norway
14 Jun 2021 1:13PM

Quote:
Quote:Montparnasse is good. Alfred Dreyfus, victim of a notorious case of anti-Semitism is also buried there. And there's a section with the unmarked graves of guillotined criminals.
Passy is also interesting, and much less well known. It's in the snooty 16th arrondissement, it has the couturiers, parfumiers, and also quite a few pioneers of various descriptions - rich kids who could afford to fly or race fast cars in the early days...



My favourite at Montparnasse was some artist's grave. The relatives had left an easel, erected with his hat plonked on the top. On the ground was a jar just filled with old brushes. It said everything !


Not been to Montparnasse, but spent half a day (at least) going round Père Lachaise a few years ago. Some of the 'headstones' and memorials would have cost more than a small house...

The living Jonathon reminded me for a few seconds of our very own David Burleson who used to run the IT here on ePz.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2459 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 1:30PM

Quote:The living Jonathon reminded me for a few seconds of our very own David Burleson who used to run the IT here on ePz.

You're right Malc, and that hadn't occurred to me.
Jonathan is newly elected to the Town Council, so I shall be seeing a lot more of him. For starters, I have to photograph the newbies for the Council website some time soon
jacomes Plus
6 28 41 Portugal
14 Jun 2021 2:19PM
Lovely portrait and context Moira.
A splendid headstone, could it be for the late Jonathan Miles Beavan and his wife/widow Mary.
James
AlfieK Plus
4 1 1 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 3:57PM
A great study of the gardener in his workplace. Cemeteries are such fascinating places.
Alfie
SlowSong Plus
13 9.9k 30 England
14 Jun 2021 4:35PM
There's a whole family history there. Smile
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2459 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 5:06PM
Thanks again everyone, and thanks to Alfie for the UA.
A rather late award, but one much deserved! I love the fact of the two Jonathan's and believe that the Marys are really two as two dates for their respective death are given. I am often astonished about how few names were common up to the twentieth century and Mary was a very common name.. Anyway the image is so well composed and as always wonderful processing..
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2459 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 5:41PM
Thanks Viola. I think this illustrates how confusing the inscription is. But I read it as 'Jonathan Miles, who died November 6th 1898 aged 49 years, the beloved husband of Mary Bevan...' Otherwise his date of death isn't given.
Then her name, date of death and age were added when she died and was buried in the same plot.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2459 United Kingdom
14 Jun 2021 9:25PM
And thanks to eddiemat for the UA. A very nice way to end the evening.
Chinga Plus
10 3 2 United Kingdom
15 Jun 2021 3:15PM
An extraordinary capture...
Isabel GrinGrinGrin
Owdman Plus
5 6 23 United Kingdom
21 Jun 2021 4:29PM
I've just spent half an hour looking for Jonathan Miles on Ancestry and Find My Past Moira and couldn't find him anywhere, nor his wife. Then I suddenly realised why I couldn't find him! His name is Jonathan Miles Beavan! Miles was his middle name! According to Probate: Jonathan Miles Beavan of Bank Top-House Prudoe, Northumberland, outfitter, died Nov 6th 1898. He left his wife Mary £1236 7s 4d.
Smile
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2459 United Kingdom
21 Jun 2021 6:09PM

Quote:I've just spent half an hour looking for Jonathan Miles on Ancestry and Find My Past Moira and couldn't find him anywhere, nor his wife. Then I suddenly realised why I couldn't find him! His name is Jonathan Miles Beavan! Miles was his middle name! According to Probate: Jonathan Miles Beavan of Bank Top-House Prudoe, Northumberland, outfitter, died Nov 6th 1898. He left his wife Mary £1236 7s 4d.
Smile


Brilliant! The volunteers are gradually researching the occupants and tracing relatives, I wonder if they have this information?

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