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Kites

By flowerpower59
Enormous thanks to everyone who appreciated my baby agaric upload.
Here is something completely different and something I have never tried before. We have kites in our valley and I had always fancied trying to photograph them. Yesterday was the day.
I have primarily uploaded this for advice. I watched a few youtube videos before setting off and scarily made loads of adjustments to my camera settings (hope I can put them all back Blush). The birds were really too far away for my lens, so I had to crop greatly. This plus the high ISO and the worst thing, the camera exposed for the sky so I had to up the exposure in post, further increasing the noise. The good thing is that I think they are just about in focus. So, this is 2 images combined beause increasing the exposure for the main bird blew out the sky.
Possibly my settings were excessive for relatively slow-moving birds? How would I go about getting the exposure for the bird right when all the youtube advice was to use Shutter Priority mode? I think I should have been using spot metering rather than centre weighted? Possibly a bit of exposure compensation?

Tags: Birds in flight Derwent valley Red kites Wildlife and nature

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27 Oct 2022 5:06PM
Nicely exposed. Well captured.
taggart Plus
18 47 15 United States
27 Oct 2022 5:37PM
Colors and balance wo wonderful here!
chase Plus
17 2.5k 669 England
27 Oct 2022 9:00PM
Well done you for trying something totally out of your comfort zone, my vote for that.
The 2 images combined look good but just watch the halos around the smaller birds.
Yes, there is quite a bit of noise on the main bird which spoils the general look.

I would have gone for shutter priority tbh and applied a bit of exposure compensation, quite a bit.
Photographing a fairly dark subject against a light sky is always going to throw your exposure out, which ever setting you choose I suppose.
I think you could have reduced your shutter speed a bit but then movement creeps in if the birds are shifting. What about dropping the aperture to F5.6 or even F8 ?
Beware the dust bunny almost in the middle of the frame, they get everywhere Wink

Perhaps the Critique Gallery would have been a good place to load this into, the other members of the Critique Team know far more about camera settings than me Blush
27 Oct 2022 10:51PM
Thanks for casting your eye over my picture Janet. Appreciated.
mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.8k 2590 United Kingdom
28 Oct 2022 7:32AM
Hi Fiona, I have been thinking about this one - you know that feathers aren't my thing but here goes...
In principle spot metering would obviate the exposure problem - but on a small, distant, moving subject? I'd stick with centre-weighted or matrix, and exposure compensation to counter the effect of background sky. (I discussed that on the Woodhorn visit). The amount of compensation depends on the brightness of the sky, the position of the sun - have a look at how much you had to increase exposure on the bird here for guidance, but it could need anything from +1 to +3 stops.
As for the sky, a modest plus on the Dehaze slider can be very helpful.
Definitely shutter speed priority, you could try going down to 1/1500 second, even try 1/1000. Kites circle around so you should be able to try various settings.
And I'd go with Janet for larger aperture, at this distance F/5.6 could work so long as the bird is in focus - and F/5.6 would quadruple the light getting in here, allowing a lower ISO.
28 Oct 2022 8:39AM
Thanks Moira. That all makes sense.
Not my thing either but I like the challenge.

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