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Let There Be Light (Please) II

By digicammad  
Judging by the feedback I had on yesterday's upload I had pushed a little too hard in trying to wring some light out of the shot, taken on a very grey day at Cwm Idwal earlier this year.

I've processed this a little differently, pushing the micro contrast less in Photomatix and relying on curves and sharpening to bring out textures.

Judging by the thumbnail (before uploading) this one looks better in my opinion, but all feedback is most welcome.

Thanks for looking.

Ian

Tags: Wales Digitally manipulated Cwm idwal Landscape and travel Grey day

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Richsr 14 91 223 England
2 Dec 2008 10:41AM
Like your composition and the details you have captured Ian - for me it needs slightly more punch in the tones.
Regards Richard.
digicammad 18 22.0k 40 United Kingdom
2 Dec 2008 10:46AM
Looks fine on my monitor Rich, but there again I remember how it was on the day. There was little punch about the tones up there. Smile
Richsr 14 91 223 England
2 Dec 2008 10:55AM
Had a look on another monitor Ian - and there Ok on that.
Richard.
digicammad 18 22.0k 40 United Kingdom
2 Dec 2008 10:57AM
Thanks Richard
porty2003 18 97 Scotland
2 Dec 2008 11:03AM
Looking back to previous upload [which I missed] I agree this one is more 'balanced' looking in the sky/hill area.The rocks/autumn vegetation is very nice and natural,love the straw/gold tones.Looks good for me.
John.
digicammad 18 22.0k 40 United Kingdom
2 Dec 2008 11:05AM
Thanks John. I don't know about everybody else but sometimes I find that no matter how hard I look at a shot the flaws don't become visible until somebody else points them out. That's why I always appreciate feedback. Smile
sut68 18 2.0k 77 England
2 Dec 2008 11:48AM
As bleak as I remember it too Wink
digicammad 18 22.0k 40 United Kingdom
2 Dec 2008 11:49AM
Just a bit quieter. Wink
richardwheel 16 217 2 England
2 Dec 2008 12:55PM
the hills are alive..with the sound of welshot Wink

nice capture Ian, from way back then

rich
digicammad 18 22.0k 40 United Kingdom
2 Dec 2008 12:56PM
lol, thanks Rich.
sut68 18 2.0k 77 England
2 Dec 2008 12:58PM

Quote:Just a bit quieter.

... sorry, did you say summat Wink
digicammad 18 22.0k 40 United Kingdom
2 Dec 2008 12:59PM
... Smile
BillyGoatGruff 14 191 199 England
2 Dec 2008 1:01PM
I think they're both really good.
Yesterday's has the edge for me - a more balanced comp, imo.
Cheers
Bill
digicammad 18 22.0k 40 United Kingdom
2 Dec 2008 1:06PM
Thanks Bill. Comparing the two, yesterday's comp is my favourite but I have definitely pushed it too far.

Ian
csurry 19 9.2k 92
2 Dec 2008 1:46PM
Does look better Grin
digicammad 18 22.0k 40 United Kingdom
2 Dec 2008 1:49PM
Cheers Cheryl and thanks for the feedback on yesterday's.
daviewat 17 4.1k Scotland
2 Dec 2008 2:34PM
I like it not just for the debate over ight etc, but because it is purely big,powerful country that is a pleasure to look at Smile


dave
digicammad 18 22.0k 40 United Kingdom
2 Dec 2008 2:37PM
Thanks Davie.

Kalseru thanks for the mod. It would be nice however to have some explanation of what you have done.

Ian
csurry 19 9.2k 92
2 Dec 2008 4:55PM
Sorry about yesterday Ian, but obvious HDR is a bit of a bug-bear of mine. I do not disapprove of the technique as such, just feel that shadows are there for a reason. They give depth.

I can see the benefits in landscape work in using it. I only have to compare my snaps from Snowdonia the other week to those from more accomplished processors of the file. I have some from very similar positions to theirs, but no real idea where or how to start processing them. And as I don't use the technique for nature shots I see little point in learning.

So when done well (almost invisible) I can appreciate it, but when done so all sense of reality is lost (what is reality - and that does not describe yesterdays - yesterdays was borderline - obvious but not totally overcooked) I just find myself hating the image without looking further/deeper into the subject being portrayed.

So if you ever want to know if you've overdone it send it to me for an "expert" opinion Wink
digicammad 18 22.0k 40 United Kingdom
2 Dec 2008 5:07PM
That's no problem Cheryl, I really appreciated your honest feedback. As I have always said, I do my best to create realistic HDR, I don't tag my images as HDR so when somebody spots that it is I feel that I must have done something wrong.

My problem with yesterday's was that I was trying too hard to pull textures out of what was a very flat day. I've gone back and adjusted the light smoothing and micro contrast and the result is much better.

Mind you, I personally think an over-gradded shot is every bit as bad as an overcooked HDR.

As to expert opinions, you're always on my list. Grin

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