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Lincoln Cathedral

By Juditha
This is a majestic building, and I wanted to convey the size of it and the beautiful range of colours. I made this particular crop to emphasise the height. I'd be grateful for any comments as to how this shot could be improved.

Taken with a Canon 50D, 0.6 secs at f/9, ISO 200 and Canon ef-s 17-85mm f/4 - 5.6 IS USM lens at 35mm
I used Lightroom 3 to crop the image and to boost the contrast

Tags: Architecture Cathedral

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This photo is here for critique. Please only comment constructively and with suggestions on how to improve it.


Focus_Man 6 481 631 United Kingdom
12 Nov 2012 8:45AM
Hi Judith certainly a majestic scene as you describe, there are however a couple of things that for me fail to lift this image.

1. The chairs instead of pews! What happened to pews in a cathedral?
2. Not your fault but those catenaries could do with cloning out but it will prove to eb a painfully slow and laborious task to ge tthe picture just right (well it would for me anyway).
3. There is barrel distortion evident at both sides, this of course is easily removed.
4. To me the aspect ratio is a bit too severe. Maye be using 6:4 chopping out some of the top down to the bottom of the row of windows might help.
5. The burned out section bottom left could have some of the pillars above cloned downwards.

I will upload a mod mainly to show you the effect of the crop I have suggested, but I will have a quick go at cloning out the lower left catenary, the bottom of the pillars and the box on centre, just above the steps. I will also have a go at correcting some of the barrel distortion (a bit seems to be beyond me), but others are far better so it is only a guide.


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DeSilver Plus
9 13 11 England
12 Nov 2012 9:27AM
Hi Judith,
I have a picture on here of Lincoln Cathedral and I also have tried to give the feeling of the height and size of this wonderful Cathedral. Have a look and see what you think.

banehawi Plus
12 1.5k 3529 Canada
12 Nov 2012 5:16PM
Welcome to EPZ Judith.

THis certainly shows the great height of the cathedral. You have generally good detail and colour.

Theres a very bright area lower left thats a distraction, - perhaps its sunlight, - if so, perhaps wait until its passed? Frank mentioned lens distortion. If you look carefully at the both sides, you will notice the tend to curve inwards. Nothing you could do about that at the time, though it can be corrected in post processing, - I used a lens correction tool in Photoshop CS. Many people wouldnt notice it though.

I would suggest lightening (post processing again, - let us know which software you use) the chairs, and the organ, and then applying an overall sharpening. I imagine there a sharpening step you could have missed in re sizing and uploading. Re size, set PPI to 72 and then adjust longest size, then save to obtain the correct file size; then open the new file, check for sharpness, sharpen as needed, then save, then upload.

Ive applied all the above in the modification Ive uploaded to show what mean. If you scroll up the page to the modifications tab, just click it to see all mods.

Catenaries btw are those wires running across the image.

Enjoy the site


paulbroad 9 116 1064 United Kingdom
12 Nov 2012 8:24PM
Much already said but, for me it's not sharp enough. Architectural record must be pin sharp. All else follows on. I know this view well and Lincoln charges to use a tripod. Did you use one, because the shutter speed used is too slowto hand hold even with IS.

Juditha 5 16 United Kingdom
12 Nov 2012 10:18PM
Thank you for your feedback.
I do see what you mean by the barrel distortion - once you had pointed it out it was obvious, and as you point out it can be corrected without too much difficulty. I will certainly look out for it in other pictures from this set.
I can see in your modification the difference that sharpening has made. I'm quite new to outputting & uploading photos so I guess I need to make this a part of my workflow. I also like the lightening of the chairs. I use Lightroom 3 mainly but I also have Elements 9 (can't afford Photoshop CS!).
I did use a tripod but not a cable release - this may have helped in getting a sharper image.
I really appreciate your time in commenting and in making modifications, and there's a number of things here for me to learn from.
banehawi Plus
12 1.5k 3529 Canada
12 Nov 2012 11:02PM
I think your original is likely sharper than the pic here Judith, - so its likely all down to that step in the workflow for re sizing.


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