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Lost in Thought

By frattonfreak
Low Key Image with large softbox with flash under wxposing by 3 full stops

Tags: Portrait Dark Hair Purple Girl Low key Head and shoulders Portraits and people Purple hair

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28 Apr 2013 10:52AM
Very nicely done.


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28 Apr 2013 11:14AM
Thanks for the comment

Anyone else - Just noted voting is disable - I dont recall setting this, can it be changed?
28 Apr 2013 11:32AM
ahh its because I asked for critique - no idea how to take this off
Alda 5 70 30 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2013 12:02PM
This is just wonderful. Absolutely love it! GrinGrin
franken Plus
15 4.6k 4 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2013 12:33PM
A beautiful portrait.

parob 7 3 74 France
28 Apr 2013 12:33PM
With shots like that, you can't be a beginner as stated on your PF! This is very nicely done because, to me at any rate, your portrait is ethereal to the point that you subject appears beautifully unreal, a porcelain doll, one would say. I suppose it also has to do with the way you have angled her eyes and framed her overall expression. I particularly enjoy the colour saturation. Congratulations,
28 Apr 2013 12:52PM
Thanks for your kind comments

Haha yes a definite beginner still but with lots of enthusiasm and not enoughh time. I've had a DLSR for 3.5 years I think now (this is my second). There is just some softening of the image but no colour, no tone and no levels adjustments.

What I've learnt about photography is that you need to experiment all the time to learn more and be OK with making mistakes / getting it wrong, especially with position / angles and light. Of course the other is to take a lot of shots. I have a softbox to the left and no other light

I've started last year a photography degree (open learning) with the OCA so even less time but learning the basics can improve your knowledge and skill. A long way still for me to go
tripodted 12 32 1 Northern Ireland
28 Apr 2013 1:18PM
Beautifully lit image full of atmosphere.
Sooty_1 7 1.5k 221 United Kingdom
28 Apr 2013 2:02PM
I like it. Lighting is entirely appropriate for the mood, I think the colour is good and my only criticism really is her eye make-up is a bit heavy - on first viewing, it makes her eyes look a funny shape, like she has a squint.

I think it would be very powerful if she kept her head there and raised her eyes to look at the camera.

banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3864 Canada
28 Apr 2013 5:17PM
Warren, images where the Critique box is clicked wont have voting enabled, - and it cant be changed. I would just upload this tomorrow into the general galler.

Its very well done. I tend to be in agreement with Nick, - even a slight eye turn towards the camera, or the lights to get a catchlight.

Ill load a mod, - scroll up and click the modifications tab to see it in a while.


banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3864 Canada
28 Apr 2013 5:23PM
Mod done, - I noticed you have Adoge RGB as the colour profile, - use sRGB for the web.

28 Apr 2013 6:32PM
Willie - why is that?
28 Apr 2013 6:33PM
Got the mod - yeah thanks.
paulbroad 10 123 1238 United Kingdom
29 Apr 2013 7:15AM
Adobe RGB is for professional printing runs, not normal work for screen, TV or home printing. sRGB for most purposes. People see the word, Adobe and think that is thus the best, doesn't work like that.

A high quality portrait but you are never 3 stops down. The image would be very dark indeed, depending where you are reading your exposure information from. Your EXIF says 2/3 stops down, which is rather more believable. Assume you are using off camera flash with Nikon flash control. This is not direct flash.

The lighting is excellent and I would not have catch lights at this angle. If she were looking at the camera, as I wish she was, then you would have catch lights. Crop top a bit, and right.

Then leave off the logo. It has the brightest highlights on the frame.

29 Apr 2013 8:55AM
Paul - Thanks for the info. I've not set this on purpose, its likely a CS default

With regard to your statements I'm not sure where you are coming from , perhaps you have misread what I've said However I can assure you the "flash" is 100% 3 stops down TTL, its set from from an SU800 sitting on the camera obviously, the flash sitting in the softbox is an SB900. Its the camera exposure that has been set to 2/3 of a stop under so in total the flash is -2 1/3. The SU800 can independently control the power of up to 3 flashes

In terms of the mod yes I dont think the catchlights work but the softening of the reflection on the nose is well done. I appreciate the critique and comments. The logo is just on this web image, at 100k the image is not going to be its best anyway

Here is an example of another photo I took in the same set - with catchlights from the softened flash
29 Apr 2013 9:37AM
ahh sorry the flash is actually 3 2/3 under camera metered exposure
paulbroad 10 123 1238 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 7:47AM
So you are saying the main light source is natural light? That you metered for natural light then under exposed the flash?

30 Apr 2013 12:48PM
The image isn't taken in a blacked out room so the camera will meter based on the available light - yes. The camera will add the amount of flash it thinks subject to what I tell it

The SU800 allows me to set an TTL EV setting for the flash in the softbox. It can actually control this individually for 3 flash guns - one is currently enough for me for single portraits!! Setting the flash to
-3.0 EV allows the me to control the power of the flash e.g. produce light 3 stops lower than what the camera has metered as being required for aperture and shutter synch speed (and also take into account I'm already under exposing 2/3 of stop controlled by the camera.

You could manually amend the flash power but its far easier doing it from the SU800

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