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Malva sylvestris

By nkargar1356
I shoot for fun

Tags: Nature Flower Plants Flowers and plants

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mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.9k 2457 United Kingdom
17 Jun 2021 9:32PM
Hello again, good to see you back in the Critique Gallery. You have uploaded here several times before, has the advice given helped you? It would be helpful to know.

You shoot for fun, but it would be useful to know a little bit more about what effect you are looking for. This is attractive, with good complementary colours - purple and green are a marriage made in photography heaven; and it's well focused. A few thoughts come to mind.

Thanks for showing your Exif - F/9 has given the complete flower head in focus while still softening the background. But I don't think you needed 400 ISO, or 1/400 second. In still air conditions, a somewhat slower shutter speed would have been fine - and only shoot flowers in still air.

As far as I can see you usually use landscape format for flowers. We have suggested cropping your previous critique uploads, have you considered this? To my eye while the flower is well photographed it does not look as though there is an intentional composition. It just happens to be in the frame... And that light area in the bottom left corner really drags my eye away from the subject.

I have cropped to place it centrally in a square frame, which contains it. Now it looks as though the composition is intentional.

And I darkened highlights slightly, which strengthens colour in the upward-facing petals. They are reflecting quite a bit of light.

No other changes. Without knowing more about how you see this it's difficult to say more.
Moira
17 Jun 2021 9:45PM

Quote:Hello again, good to see you back in the Critique Gallery. You have uploaded here several times before, has the advice given helped you? It would be helpful to know.

You shoot for fun, but it would be useful to know a little bit more about what effect you are looking for. This is attractive, with good complementary colours - purple and green are a marriage made in photography heaven; and it's well focused. A few thoughts come to mind.

Thanks for showing your Exif - F/9 has given the complete flower head in focus while still softening the background. But I don't think you needed 400 ISO, or 1/400 second. In still air conditions, a somewhat slower shutter speed would have been fine - and only shoot flowers in still air.

As far as I can see you usually use landscape format for flowers. We have suggested cropping your previous critique uploads, have you considered this? To my eye while the flower is well photographed it does not look as though there is an intentional composition. It just happens to be in the frame... And that light area in the bottom left corner really drags my eye away from the subject.

I have cropped to place it centrally in a square frame, which contains it. Now it looks as though the composition is intentional.

And I darkened highlights slightly, which strengthens colour in the upward-facing petals. They are reflecting quite a bit of light.

No other changes. Without knowing more about how you see this it's difficult to say more.
Moira


Hello
I try to solve photo problems with Photoshop, but my work may have a lot of problems.
Thanks for your review. I try to learn right .
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.9k 2457 United Kingdom
18 Jun 2021 11:57AM

Quote:Hello
I try to solve photo problems with Photoshop, but my work may have a lot of problems.
Thanks for your review. I try to learn right .


Thanks for coming back to us, it's good to hear from you. If you have worked on this, you could add the original as a Modification - click on that blue Modifications button and follow the instructions. Your result here looks very natural and pleasing.

I'll repeat a question that I asked above though - are you considering cropping to other than 3 x 2?
Moira
dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 784 England
18 Jun 2021 12:41PM
You've chosen decent settings to get a result with the flower sharp. The background behind the flower isn't too distracting but I wonder if adjusing your position slightly you could have avoided the bright area above the top of the flower or even hid it behind the flower.

The main concern is the lef half of the image, it doesn't add anything visually and is a distraction. Cropping the imag does make a big difference. Shooting in a vertical format would have been the best approach. If you wanted to shoot horizontally you could have placed the flower on the left hand side of the image as it looks like the background to the right of the image is much less messy and thus more complementary rather than a distraction. Moira's suggestion of an alternative aspect ratio crop is also worth considering, as you don't need to stick to 3:2.

While thesubject is nicely rendered, you do need to considerthe background and edges of the frame as these can make or break an image.

Quote:I try to solve photo problems with Photoshop, but my work may have a lot of problems.

Cropping, such as for panoramic views or to create square images may be worthwhile in some cases, getting the image as good as you can at the time of capture is what you should be aiming for.
pamelajean Plus
15 1.6k 2238 United Kingdom
18 Jun 2021 12:53PM
Welcome back to the Critique Gallery, Naser.
It's been nearly a year since you were here last.
I see from your portfolio that you like photographing flowers.
Wild flowers make a refreshing change from the cultivated kinds, and the common mallow is a very attractive example.

Moira has commented on your composition. There is a lot of "dead" space on the left which is serving no purpose.

Although the green background is acceptable, it might have been worth moving around your chosen subject in order to find a less fussy background for it. An alternative would be to have the flower's background quite a distance from it so that the background ends up even more blurred and the flower becomes nicely isolated.

Late afternoon was a good time to be shooting flowers, but even later would see the light becoming less intense and far more diffuse, an ideal time for this type of photography.

You say, "I shoot for fun" and I think that is true of most photographers, except perhaps for the professionals who do it for a living, but even they will get a certain amount of fun out of their work. However, as Moira has said, it would be good to have some feedback from you as to your personal thoughts about this picture, and answers to her other questions.

You also say, "My work may have a lot of problems". It would be better for you to try to get as perfect a picture as possible at the time of shooting, instead of depending on Photoshop for help. Anyway, I don't think your work is too bad, and hopefully, if you follow the advice of critiquers, you will eventually become proud of your efforts and happy with the in-camera results.

Pamela.

PS: I was typing at the same time as Keith, so we have repeated a few ideas.
18 Jun 2021 2:44PM

Quote:
Quote:Hello
I try to solve photo problems with Photoshop, but my work may have a lot of problems.
Thanks for your review. I try to learn right .


Thanks for coming back to us, it's good to hear from you. If you have worked on this, you could add the original as a Modification - click on that blue Modifications button and follow the instructions. Your result here looks very natural and pleasing.

I'll repeat a question that I asked above though - are you considering cropping to other than 3 x 2?
Moira


Hi, in some cases I tried other ratios, but you are absolutely right. I mostly take photos with a 3: 2 ratio. I will definitely use other ratios.

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18 Jun 2021 2:45PM

Quote:
Quote:Hello
I try to solve photo problems with Photoshop, but my work may have a lot of problems.
Thanks for your review. I try to learn right .


Thanks for coming back to us, it's good to hear from you. If you have worked on this, you could add the original as a Modification - click on that blue Modifications button and follow the instructions. Your result here looks very natural and pleasing.

I'll repeat a question that I asked above though - are you considering cropping to other than 3 x 2?
Moira


Thanks for your feedback
18 Jun 2021 2:47PM

Quote:You've chosen decent settings to get a result with the flower sharp. The background behind the flower isn't too distracting but I wonder if adjusing your position slightly you could have avoided the bright area above the top of the flower or even hid it behind the flower.

The main concern is the lef half of the image, it doesn't add anything visually and is a distraction. Cropping the imag does make a big difference. Shooting in a vertical format would have been the best approach. If you wanted to shoot horizontally you could have placed the flower on the left hand side of the image as it looks like the background to the right of the image is much less messy and thus more complementary rather than a distraction. Moira's suggestion of an alternative aspect ratio crop is also worth considering, as you don't need to stick to 3:2.

While thesubject is nicely rendered, you do need to considerthe background and edges of the frame as these can make or break an image.

Quote:I try to solve photo problems with Photoshop, but my work may have a lot of problems.

Cropping, such as for panoramic views or to create square images may be worthwhile in some cases, getting the image as good as you can at the time of capture is what you should be aiming for.


Thanks for your feedback
I try to use the tips
18 Jun 2021 2:52PM

Quote:Welcome back to the Critique Gallery, Naser.
It's been nearly a year since you were here last.
I see from your portfolio that you like photographing flowers.
Wild flowers make a refreshing change from the cultivated kinds, and the common mallow is a very attractive example.

Moira has commented on your composition. There is a lot of "dead" space on the left which is serving no purpose.

Although the green background is acceptable, it might have been worth moving around your chosen subject in order to find a less fussy background for it. An alternative would be to have the flower's background quite a distance from it so that the background ends up even more blurred and the flower becomes nicely isolated.

Late afternoon was a good time to be shooting flowers, but even later would see the light becoming less intense and far more diffuse, an ideal time for this type of photography.

You say, "I shoot for fun" and I think that is true of most photographers, except perhaps for the professionals who do it for a living, but even they will get a certain amount of fun out of their work. However, as Moira has said, it would be good to have some feedback from you as to your personal thoughts about this picture, and answers to her other questions.

You also say, "My work may have a lot of problems". It would be better for you to try to get as perfect a picture as possible at the time of shooting, instead of depending on Photoshop for help. Anyway, I don't think your work is too bad, and hopefully, if you follow the advice of critiquers, you will eventually become proud of your efforts and happy with the in-camera results.

Pamela.

PS: I was typing at the same time as Keith, so we have repeated a few ideas.


Hello, thank you for your review and guidance
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.9k 2457 United Kingdom
18 Jun 2021 5:50PM

Quote:Hi, in some cases I tried other ratios, but you are absolutely right. I mostly take photos with a 3: 2 ratio. I will definitely use other ratios.

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Google Translate is working well for you!
Moira
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1877 England
19 Jun 2021 8:26AM
Coming to this late, I see some good advice, and I understand that you are using Google to translate our comments. It's not perfect, but it is a big help, and I hope that you will be able to give us more information about what you were aiming to achieve.

Also, I note that you say that you try to solve problems in Photoshop: one of the things I would like to do is help you to solve some of them in taking the picture in the first place. It's always better to get the camera work right than to have to rescue a picture in processing. So please tell us more about what problems you have got.
19 Jun 2021 8:04PM

Quote:Coming to this late, I see some good advice, and I understand that you are using Google to translate our comments. It's not perfect, but it is a big help, and I hope that you will be able to give us more information about what you were aiming to achieve.

Also, I note that you say that you try to solve problems in Photoshop: one of the things I would like to do is help you to solve some of them in taking the picture in the first place. It's always better to get the camera work right than to have to rescue a picture in processing. So please tell us more about what problems you have got.


Hello and thank you
I will try to solve my photography problems with your help and using the camera

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