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Marloes Peninsula

By Bore07TM
This picture was taken from Mouse's Haven looking north towards St Davids.

I was trying to use the worn path as a natural line to draw the viewer towards the headland. I caught the tanker exiting Milford Haven by luck.

No Tripod or Filter used, Processed in Lightroom 6 + HDR Efex Pro2

I have a landscape version of the picture as well

How could I improve this shot (bearing in mind I have had lots of feedback from my previous Marloes Sands post).

Tags: Seascape Landscape and travel

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banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4051 Canada
2 Aug 2017 5:25PM
This is a better as an image with a lead in to a view or subject. The worn pathway, the track and even the outcrop of rock all lead us towards the boat.

The horizon is not level, needs a small rotation CW.

You have processed this a lot using HDR Efex and for critique it a bit of a challenge as a result. The image, as the last one is underexposed quite a bit, so I will guess its not HDR Efex, its the original exposure; Aperture priority would be the preferred mode for a shot like this where theres little movement, say f/8 - f/11; Theres some lens vignetting, (the dark corners).

Try to get the best possible shot out of the camera first before processing; use the LCD display to review the image you just took, and put it is Histogram mode so you can see exposure; this allows yo to make an adjustment to Exposure Compensation and take another shot, then repeat the process and review until you get what looks good.


Regards


Willie

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mrswoolybill Plus
13 1.7k 2099 United Kingdom
2 Aug 2017 5:26PM
Willie has uploaded his modification just ahead of me so I guess he is typing away right now...

It is a lovely view, enhanced by the light catching the grasses. The use of portrait creates a clear path to follow, gently meandering towards the headland. And then look out to see, to the horizon, the boat, the sky.

First things first, it needs an anticlockwise rotation to level the water. Water never slopes! But if you rotate here you lose significant detail at the edges of the frame. So I used Skew, and hoisted the top right corner up to get the desired effect.

The image appears underexposed, photographing into bright light would benefit from a small plus exposure compensation. Try +1 stop, check the results... If you look at the histogram you'll see that the graph curve falls back to base well before the right edge, so there are no really clear light tones. Lighten this a bit and it comes to life.

The only other change I made after that was to use the burn tool very gently over the foreground, to give a bit more oomph to those grass textures.

A takes-me-there shot, I can feel the breeze. A good way to capture memories.
Moira
banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4051 Canada
2 Aug 2017 6:59PM
CCW of course
2 Aug 2017 7:14PM
Willie & Moira Thank you very much for your feedback.

For some reason my comment didn't get posted.

I have two questions:

1. By ccw do you mean counterclockwise?- I've never come across that abbreviation before.

2. Generally, when would you to use Portrait mode for landscape photography?

Thank you
Tony Marson
banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4051 Canada
2 Aug 2017 7:15PM
Thanks for the original. What a difference that post processing made!

It is underexposed, but what this does show is that you were dealing with a lot of haze over the sea. A circular polariser filter can help cut through this haze if you are intending to take a lot of shots like this. The haze leaves the scene devoid of contrast, which post processing can add; however, the amount of post processing needed can make it a bit unrealistic. I did try a mod using the original.

Try shooting RAW to give you a lot more flexibility with post processing.


Regards


Willie
2 Aug 2017 7:27PM
Willie - once more thank you very much for your guidance.

I do actually shoot in RAW (I just can't upload them to the EPZ site!), and I do have a polarising filter (which I purchased originally for the FZ200 I owned). However, I didn't have it with me when I shot this picture. Of course equipment is no good if it sits in the cupboard and never gets used.

The feedback on my 3 Marloes shots has provided a number of important lessons

Regards

Tony Marson.
mrswoolybill Plus
13 1.7k 2099 United Kingdom
2 Aug 2017 8:30PM

Quote:I have two questions:

1. By ccw do you mean counterclockwise?- I've never come across that abbreviation before.

2. Generally, when would you to use Portrait mode for landscape photography?



1) Yes.

2) Composition is all about ways of inviting the viewer to take an interest in the image, to want to explore it. Choice of format is involved in this too.

Think of it like this: landscape format naturally draws the eye sideways from left to right (because we are schooled to read everything, images as well as text like that.) So a landscape format image needs to progress sideways, coming to a natural full stop on the right.

But portrait format fights against that and draws the eye upwards, so it works when we are definitely heading towards the distance as here. It helps if the route meanders a bit though, we don't want to rush to our destination.

That's how I see it.
dudler Plus
16 986 1537 England
3 Aug 2017 8:27AM
First off, I think that the HDR version is overcooked a little... A levels adjustment works pretty well, I reckon, without looking gaudy.

Subject and format need to match - in addition to what Moira says about how the eye moves, there needs to be a good fit (or a striking contrast) between subjuect and format. The path as a leading line would work even better if it was more alighned with the frame, rather than coming in from the side halfway up.

A couple of mods uploaded, to show how there are pictures within the picture... And how monochrome works to bring out structure (again).
paulbroad Plus
12 131 1286 United Kingdom
3 Aug 2017 8:33AM
You never present a RAW file as the final image - it is, in effect, the negative in old terms. You process the RAW file to get the best possible result, then save that result as a JPG, TIFF or what you choose. For all my purposes I save the best possible JPG.

This is a nice pictorial record, and I generally concur with the above, but your original is quite acceptable. It is pictorial record of a place at a time. My next comment is purely personal opinion - I do find this type of image with little to look at at fairly standard lighting to not hold third party attention for very long. It's a matter of interest in content.

Paul

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