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Matchless Morgan

By strokebloke  
This one is for Willie ~ a substitute for the Bentley,
The condition wasn't quite as extreme Willie, but there is, as you can see, a window in the background, throwing a fair amount of light onto the car.
So, a low down shot (as suggested), with fill-flash, hopefully achieving an acceptable balance.

Tags: Photo journalism Transport Flash and lighting Contrasting light Gorgeous car

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banehawi Plus
12 1.5k 3555 Canada
5 Aug 2011 2:10AM
Very good balance here jack between the ambient light and fill flash, - well done.

Sorry for getting you down so low!



W

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strokebloke 7 493 17 England
5 Aug 2011 7:55AM

Quote: ..... getting you down so low!


Good morning Willie.
That's not a problem. Slowly down ~ slowly back up again Smile

Thank you for your appraisal. There's certainly more visible detail available, isn't there? So a good learning exercise Smile
Looking at it again this morning, it looks a bit 'flat' to me. Too much chrome. Almost too much fill-flash. (????)
If it was in RAW I'd lift it a bit with the Clarity slider, but .........
I suspect that if I try the same thing with curves/contrast/shadows etc, I'll lose detail ?
5 Aug 2011 9:10AM
Nice Shot
strokebloke 7 493 17 England
5 Aug 2011 9:29AM
I've uploaded a Mod. ~ lifting the Contrast & Vibrance each to 40%.
In my opinion, it gives it more punch, without losing detail too much in the shadows.
Opinions please. Smile
Grampy 7 507 71 England
5 Aug 2011 9:34AM
Jack , I agree the mod is better, maybe get rid of the red reflection and the red patch behind.
Phill
strokebloke 7 493 17 England
5 Aug 2011 9:41AM
Good morning Phill. Great to hear from you.
I'll try removing the red reflections. [I've never tried removing reflections in chromework before]
The red patch behind should be easy to do Smile
strokebloke 7 493 17 England
5 Aug 2011 9:54AM
Phill, The red patch has gone [Mod 2] & most of the chrome reflections - some are on pieces with so much detail that it's almost impossible to determine a 'target' and maintain the detail of the component. So I've left those ones alone GrinGrin
strokebloke 7 493 17 England
5 Aug 2011 9:59AM
Frank, you're absolutely right.
The biggest annoyance was the proximity of each vehicle to its neighbour - from a photographic point of view.
From an interest/enthusiast point view, it would have been difficult to get more than the 800 vehicles in the 5 halls.
Well worth a visit. Smile
NEWMANP Plus
8 1.6k 574 United Kingdom
5 Aug 2011 12:47PM
hi, super subject,
problem in a hall is the framing is always going to be compromised leading to overtight tight cropping and then where do you stop and how do you choose?, you did right to get down a dirty for the viewpoint but the competing elements of bright windows and other cars popping in around frame prevent you from getting anything a great deal better.

maybe an even tighter crop onto the engine / chrome would have been stronger and eliminated the plain number plate. or you could put your own number plate in there in photoshop. Grin

with the exposure issue that you mention above, you could try selctive dodging and burning, otherwise use layers and curves erasing through, so only the parts you want changing are effected. a little more contrast could be a good thing if you can retain detail in the darker areas.

regards
Phil
strokebloke 7 493 17 England
5 Aug 2011 3:09PM
Phil, thank you. Very much appreciated Smile

At one time - when I first started taking photos, I thought that the process of producing images was all cut and dried (black & white, as it were) but I've come to the conclusion, 3 years down the line that, as with much else in life, mostly it is a question of compromise, and the skill used to determine and apply the most appropriate compromise, for any given situation.

There was a pro tog at the museum, doing shots for a magazine
And he had an area set up exactly as he wanted it, for the shots he wanted to achieve.
Lights, BG, reflectors, laptop screen to view the results, the works.
Bren and I had to make do. But, we're just plebs !! GrinGrinGrinGrin

I'll have a play with your selective exposure suggestions on some of my less presentable [rubbish] Wink shots
paulbroad 9 117 1075 United Kingdom
5 Aug 2011 3:22PM
The great problem wih this type of image is that they are never displayed ideally for photography. This is generally good and interesting. However, your flash balance was too good on your original, giving a flat result. The mod is very much better with some clarity and contrast returned.

The window, top right, is a sod, but to get this viewpoint, you had little choice. Go for an angle to the grill and depth of field would rear it's head.

Paul
strokebloke 7 493 17 England
5 Aug 2011 4:50PM
Thank you all.
Whilst I think we're all agreed on the compositional difficulties, to carry out the exercise, from my point of view, has been of immense value.
As has been all of your input/advice and suggestions. Very much appreciated. Smile
As well as being able to tick the exercise off as 'at-least-something-of-a-success', I have much from your input to consider, learn and experiment with. So a win-win result, all round.

I'm buying the beer this evening Wink

Tomorrow, I'm going to upload my shot of Bren's Triton.
I sought his permission to upload, as the last thing I want is any suggestion of comparison/competition etc.
My shot is merely from the other direction, with no emphasis on the Ace Cafe.

Your input, for my benefit [and, I'm sure, for Brens] will again be much appreciated.

J
Jestertheclown 8 7.4k 249 England
5 Aug 2011 5:01PM
Hi Jack,

The light in there really wasn't on our side was it?
I've uploaded a mod. of your shot in which I've cropped it as tightly as I realistically could and applied some contrast using the threshold curves method.
I also got rid of the red bits and the window frame in the background.

Hope it's OK. (Or at least makes you smile!)

Bren.
strokebloke 7 493 17 England
5 Aug 2011 6:06PM
Hahaha Now that really is taking things a step too far. Putting a personalised number plate on my shot GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

The plate is superb. (Especially the clown standing on the bolt head. TongueWink

You're right.
It is definitely more contrasty, but it is beginning to make some of the detail on the rear inner surfaces of the wings less distinct.

You wait until I put my Triton up tomorrow. SmileSmileSmileSmile

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