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milk crate

By Diana
I thought I would throw myself into the critique pit for ideas really. I PP'ed this to death (I think) to get rid of the backdrop thingy. I cant get my head round that clone tool at all (I know I should have bleached the back drop with a light or two but that was not an option at the time)

so the original is behind this pp'ed disaster if you would like to show me any trix I'd really appreciate it

thank you crit team and anyone else who wants to advise or whatever

its good to play and to dream whilst playing

thank you

Tags: Bored Portraits and people Flash and lighting

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morpheus1955 14 3 2 United Kingdom
4 Sep 2010 12:31AM
Good morning Diana, well to me V1 look spot on, what ever you did to the original works IMHO.

gary_d 13 576 13 Wales
4 Sep 2010 12:41AM
I am not qualified to offer critique I just love the image. - gary
Diana 14 2.0k 19 Netherlands
4 Sep 2010 12:49AM
do you think so Hugh ? I thought I went OTT with it

Gary we are all qualified enough to offer critique surely ?

thank you though

clicknimagine Plus
11 833 104 India
4 Sep 2010 8:09AM
i think you have done very well in the post processing, lovely point of view as well, but the eyes are looking boring without any proper definition, play with the light and with the placement of it, use the light in a creative way which you always do, but studio type portrait with simple diffused lighting may not give much more interest, play with the light, you will get many more ideas...
Suehh 14 39 6 England
4 Sep 2010 9:21AM
I am not at all qualified to offer any kind of critique but for me V1 is stunning - I love the way you have the model's lower half moving right into the image - if you know what I mean. Don't know how you do it, but it is fab! Beautiful processing.

User_Removed 15 10 United Kingdom
4 Sep 2010 10:04AM
Critique Wanted-- love it top shooting as always

wrinkles 12 351 United Kingdom
4 Sep 2010 11:34AM
This is a very nice picture,but for me the head angle is wrong.
But then who am I.
Diana 14 2.0k 19 Netherlands
4 Sep 2010 1:46PM
thank you

I was not really struggling with the light clicknimagine but the PP'ing in this one

I wanted a dominant haughty look and thats what I got

I really don't like happy smiley images with all that eye contact stuff going on, that is not a true reflection on the reality of life, in fact if you go through my stream you I doubt you will find one smiley pic amongst them

happiness is not the natural state ....

I'm not really short of ideas with light tbh lol… but thanks anyway

just the critique was about the PP and cloning the wall and backdrop out is what I was hoping for

I used my 10mm prime for the distortion but its wideness has got all the backdrop stuff in it too and I cant clone that well it goes all shady when I do it

Wrinkles OK , but just saying the head angle is wrong doesn't really help me that much

perhaps you could suggest which angle would be 'right' IYO

so thank you for the comments and crits

cassiecat 13 39 46 England
4 Sep 2010 2:23PM
hi diana,do like the perspective of the 10-20 with close ups. you didnt mention how you adjusted your bg, i have done a mod with the description of how i did it, with PS theres loads of different ways of achieving the same result. I like what youve achieved, perhaps the skin tones are alittle harsh compared to the original, but it depends on the look that you are after. Youve certainly got the haughty look you were aiming for.lesley
banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4247 Canada
4 Sep 2010 2:46PM
I like the overall composition, good use of a 10mm with a nice diagonal comp. The larger feet coupled with the substantial looking platfomrs do say dominant to me.

I prefer the skin tone and colour of you original, and though the background is a tad grey, it is evenly lit with good shadows from the model and the crate.

Ive used the original to mod as I would prefer to retain as much of the original colour as possible. I find V2 a little dark, - not from an exposure pov, but tonally where you have done some work, - and which you may well prefer.

A couple of small items I cam across, - one is minor and again you light want it that way, - the crate is not straight, hence the model isnt either; theres a fair amount of shadow under her head which can be lifted easily; and a little more light overall on the model.

Loaded 2 mods, - the second is a diffuse glow with a gradient to lighten only the upper half, - may be even too little to notice. I didnt go for a perfectly pure white background, - its very slightly under, which I personally thing looks better.


imagio 14 12 1 England
4 Sep 2010 6:46PM
Agree with Gary Diana, like the image..

Diana 14 2.0k 19 Netherlands
4 Sep 2010 6:50PM
Leslie thank you so much for those helpful instructions, just terriffic !

I just cloned from some of the whiter bits that's about my level of PP to be honest

yes I agree about the skin tones and thats the bit I didn't like too. I think I have nik filter I'll see if I can use that skin softener in there then, I used another plug-in for skin softening - not nik filter

thank you too for detailed crit and tips

yes, I only used one profoto soft box to light her, (up high) hence the highlights on her cheeks and forehead (Rembrandt-esque effect) and this accounts for the shadow under her chin.

I just got lazy I guess (when she sat down I didnt re-adjust the lighting) ….. that will teach me cos now I have to play in P/shop and I would prefer not to of course.

Yes, point taken about the milk crate not being straight but I wanted her feet in the corner so sacrificed a non straight milk crate for that effect and yes W the PP' ing made her skin too dark, I agree and thats where I kind of got stuck in the process.

I like the mods W, thank you for your time. I haven't used half the tools you guys are talking about, like diffuse glow etc. etc. but I will look these out and have a try with your ideas on other images.

Focus-man thank you for seeing the emotion, that has thrilled me no end Wink

Hey it wasn't so scary throwing myself into the crit pit after all Smile

so pleased most of you agreed about the hautiness, at least I got that right

I'll PP another later from these tips you have so generously given to me

.....thank you so very much

Jestertheclown 12 8.4k 253 England
4 Sep 2010 8:43PM
I don't usually comment on images of anything even vaguely resembling a portrait because I don't know much about them.
However, this has really caught my eye.
The deliberately unnaturally large feet and the expression which cries out that the young lady's got a bad smell under her nose work brilliantly together.
As for cloning, it's not really a black art but it does require a little patience and some practice particularly with a job like the one you've taken on here.
Still, it worked didn't it . . . ? !
I like this a lot.

andy210966 13 4 119 Wales
4 Sep 2010 10:16PM
Works for me D!! Smile Love the use of the wide! A shot with real impact.

Diana 14 2.0k 19 Netherlands
4 Sep 2010 11:22PM
thanks all great crit and tips I have been working with all your help on the next one Wink

dead chuffed thank you

thank you for the mod too Bernie like it Wink


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