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By susanannlangford
This photo was taken on a Mamyia RB67 400ASA film, this is part of a project I am trying to complete for my uni course. Advice would be helpful. I will be fine printing,

Tags: Architecture Black and white

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NEWMANP 10 1.6k 574 United Kingdom
12 Dec 2010 10:25PM
a legend of a camera to use, a real pro workhorse 6 x 7. the finished print should be fun to produce, there is nothing like a dark room.
i can see where you are going here with this image, i like he simple composition and particularly like the square format.
others may seek another element in the image and would suggest its a stage without an actor but as "fine art print" work the use of architectural detail in flat plane can look exceptional.
for me the missing element is any real suggestion of light, id have been looking for some raking light across the masonary to bring up some texture and add punch with a few shadows and stronger contrast. i personally will seldom complete a shoot unless the light is 100% with me.

for me a mono image should contain a full range of tones from white to black unless deliberatly seeking sombre mood. im not sure the contrast range is strong enough here but that may be related to the rest of your panel set.

architectural details need to be totally plumb to work to best effect and here the handrail is sloping and there is an awkward higlight over the right side pillar.

i suppose the question is are you intending to produce a wet print or a digital print from a scan. in many ways the latter would give some scope to add a few improvments. from a wet print you would have a super sized negative but not post processing capability. either way id like to have seen the finished item.

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Jestertheclown 9 7.7k 252 England
12 Dec 2010 10:32PM
Tricky one this!
I'm no authority on how to get the best out of B?W shots so I'll leave that to the others!
The biggest problem with this, as far as I can see, is that none of the straight lines is actualy horizontal or vertical!
I've opened it using the grid in Picasa and as I aligned one edge, the others all went awry.
I have to say that I reckon that the wall and fence etc. in the shot really are crooked and that you've done a first class job of capturing it.
I'm just not sure that others will see it that way!

Sorry not to have been more helpful.

12 Dec 2010 10:39PM
It will be wet print I see what you mean about the light. That is supposed to be part of the project. I can see the lines are out, I dont undestand why. I think I must have taken it at an angle. Thankyou for your comments
DRicherby 9 269 725 United Kingdom
13 Dec 2010 10:14AM
I'll fulfill Phil's prophecy by suggesting that this is a stage without an actor. It's an interesting environment but it seems to be just that: an environment. With nothing on the wall — not even a pattern of light from a window — the photo looks empty, to me. The wall itself doesn't have enough texture or other interest to stand as the subject.

I think you're right that this was taken at an angle, with the camera pointed slightly upwards and to the right. The horizontal lines (such as the top of the railing and the floor level below it) converge slightly to the right and the verticals converge slightly towards the top.
JackAllTog Plus
9 5.0k 58 United Kingdom
13 Dec 2010 1:39PM

Quote:It will be wet print I see what you mean about the light. That is supposed to be part of the project. I can see the lines are out, I dont undestand why. I think I must have taken it at an angle. Thankyou for your comments

As your looking up at the image the lines converge at Top infinity, you need to remove this distortion in say photoshop. Its an old building and the verticals my not be verticle anyway. You could try a dark corner vignette to reduce the images reliance on lines. also the RHS is a bit burnt out for me.
May be i'd instead try just darkening the fore wall to make the back wall seem more seperated.
paulbroad 10 123 1243 United Kingdom
13 Dec 2010 5:11PM
Look, you are not going to like this, but I can't see anything there. It is a wall and a steel fence, neither of which is very attractive or meaningful. What is the project?

I could only see anything here with a subject - person, animal, potted plant - I don't know what, but something. It is a personal comment, it is subjective, but I can't see how it matters how you print this image.

Sorry - very negative I know, but as it stands it really means nothing to me.

banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3879 Canada
13 Dec 2010 6:29PM
I assume the image is connected with the project as it has minimal content, no particular focal point.

Pauls comments above illustrate the need to let us know your intent with the shot, - Im sure this is something you were required to submit, but provide more details to assist.

As a study in geometrical shapes or architecture, it needed to have been shot straight on, rather than slightly from the left, as this has caused some issues with geometry, especially the horizontals, which slowly diverge as you move up the image, suggesting also that you shooting position was a little low..

I should not be able to see the side of that right pillar, - should be the same as the left, showing no side at all, - then lines would be correct.

I tried some lens correction software, but it cant make it quite right, - but a distortion did correct it somewhat as in the mod. I would also give it a little more contrast.

Hope this helps,



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