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Overlooking Eigg & Rhum

By Irishkate  
Taken at Airisaig on the road to Mallaig - practising long exposure(Mark I need your help).
I used a Graduated filter, an 8 & 4 filter as it was daytime, I thought I'd need quite a lot to
achieve a long expoure. I was surprised how much magenta this brougt out in the sky.
Have I overdone it? So I'd be happy to receive any advice on offer please.
Many thanks for vs & cs on last upload Pearly Everlasting ID'd by Joline.
KateGrin

Tags: Long exposure Landscape and travel Arisaig overlooking Eigg and Rhum Scotland

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barbarahirst 12 27 12 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2013 3:11PM
well i like it!!!
even tho' the sky is quite surreal looking
ugly Plus
12 9 57 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2013 3:12PM
Very nice image...
I do like the pink sky..
You laost a tad of detail in the water at bottom of image but it does not distract...
The Little boat on leftside has a nice reflection..
A image that I like.
Very nice comp and well taken...

Dave
CarolG 14 199 20 Greece
7 Aug 2013 3:24PM
So very beautiful, Kate, I love it Smile Carol
Nikonuser1 Plus
8 166 16 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2013 3:27PM
A great image Kate, Smile


Cliff
7 Aug 2013 3:34PM
A lovely, well composed image, Kate - lots of atmosphere and a powerful sky which is an interesting colour!Smile
I have uploaded a modified version done using Lightroom 5 to remove some of the magenta from the sky.
I'd be interested to see what you think!
We had a superb time in Scotland - what a stunningly beautiful, 'wow place' to visit!
Best wishes,
Richard
7 Aug 2013 3:34PM
Great composition.
Effrossini
mikbee 13 3 8 Scotland
7 Aug 2013 4:09PM
Maybe overdone for a travel brochure Kate,
but it is fine for on here !!
And thank you very much for your UA.
It was very much appreciated.
Mick.
Ridgeway 14 222 2 Ireland
7 Aug 2013 4:59PM
Very nice Kate,loveing that sky.

Aidan,
Niknut Plus
11 2.8k 82 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2013 5:02PM
Beautiful shot !!!......nice drama in that moody sky !!

The Magenta cast from the grad. filter is the exact reason that I stopped using the damn things !!....though maybe the
top-class ones from say Lee may not do this ???.....but they're too pricey for me !!

I've found that by careful exposure, & using a 'photoshop grey-grad' in post processing, I can achieve a more satisfactory
result to accentuate a dramatic sky......& it's more controllable for my type of work !!.Smile
rayme330 9 17 1 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2013 5:05PM
A lovely scene that is a little too pink, Kate but you have to try or you won't know. GrinGrinGrin

Richard's mod looks super.

Ray
EMJAYCEE Plus
11 10 10 England
7 Aug 2013 5:06PM
Your sky has great impact Kate whereas the mod by Richard is more restful. Guess you "takes your pick."
Joan,
Irishkate Plus
10 44 119 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2013 5:28PM
Richard's mod does look more like what I saw.I guess those filters are to blame
and was interested to see Keith's comment. I can't afford Lee's filters either and I know
you have to wait for them!
I did remove some of the magenta myself in another version but posted this to see what
members had to say!
Kate Grin
BIGRY1 9 3 8 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2013 6:13PM
I think you have over compensated on the filters. To get the correct filter I always use spot metering to take a reading of the sky and then take a reading of a mid tone colour on the ground. What ever the difference will usually tell me what filter to use. Regarding the magenta are you using Cokin p filters? I use them and I have the same issues with the magenta cast.
On a more positive note as with all your images the comp is spot on and this looks like anther great place to visit.Grin
Ryan
ColleenA Plus
8 472 7 Australia
7 Aug 2013 6:22PM
So pretty Kate, a beautiful capture
7 Aug 2013 7:23PM
Have never used filter Kate so ah dinnae ken but its fun to experiment and learn

G
7 Aug 2013 7:36PM
all very nice,mystic but serene looking.

billy
marktc Plus
10 101 15 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2013 7:45PM
Hello Kate,
Without doubt its the filters that have caused the magenta cast. I don't know if its intentional but your focus is a little soft too, but the overall composition and content are very good.

So, without buying expensive filters the most effective way to get rid of the colour cast in camera is to create a custom white balance, (google it for your camera), a simple grey card is all that you need to buy and then create your custom white balance with the filters on.

In CS5 you can open the raw file in bridge and select AUTO and it will do a very good job of removing a cast too.

There is an smart phone app on the market called ND GRAD CALC, but bearing in mind that this will give you the calculation for a balanced exposure and not for a long exposure.

I went through this whole experience too and found that there is nothing like buying the best and yes I had to wait too!!! I know Hitech have just released a new series of ND filters but I don't know the price, maybe worth a look.

Finally, if the soft focus wasn't intentional, I suspect (and not knowing for sure its just a guess) that you have screw on filters and have lost the focus as a result. They are tricky to use and much care is needed during the focusing and fitting process. I can't come up with a better mod as I don't have the raw file, but I'm sure if you have any of the CS suites you will manage to find a way to do it.

With respect to Keith's advice about adding grads from software, of course you can, and they can be most effective, but that won't give you the long exposure effect that you are looking for.
Joline Plus
14 30 59 United States
7 Aug 2013 8:00PM
A beautiful scene, and the pink sky didn't surprise me at all....if you hadn't said I would have thought that was the color. We often get that shade of sky here in the early morning and late evening. Richard's mod is nice too, but I must admit I prefer the drama of yours.
netta1234 9 382 2 Wales
7 Aug 2013 8:27PM
Well Kate I must say that I do like this image as it is,and I say like the above comment that if you hadnt said I would have thought that was the colour.
NettaSmile
widtink 8 406 2 Scotland
7 Aug 2013 8:38PM
I think the experts have said it all really , it is good to experiment though Smile

Rod
jasonrwl Plus
11 1.1k 11 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2013 8:58PM
Good stuff kate - I like Mark's mono mod and his assistance on long exposure and filters is excellent - thanks for prompting him to do it!! GrinGrin
Jason
Lots of contructive comments from the experts Kate.. I have nothing to add except lovely composition & good to experiment Wink
AnnJ 9 5 United Kingdom
7 Aug 2013 11:14PM
Well done, a lovely shot. Ann.
annettep38 9 220 42 Luxembourg
15 Aug 2013 12:49AM
Well the first thing that springs to my mind is... why is it so blurry? Sorry but to me there is NOTHING in focus.
Another good way ( apart from Mark's very good advice and Keith even simpler easy way of doing it..) is apply the grad filter in Lightroom. Even v3 does it nicely Or any fill in Photoshop will do the trick.
Long term exposures (not my kettle of fish) are best done on a sturdy tripod. which means a heavy one. Look here this is my tripod which I have had for 25 years, it has resisted heavy storms to take all my lighthouse shots with a toyo field 4x4" and the Pentax.
Light tripods only make things worse. Rather than dragging a flimsy one around, use none and a brighter lens or a faster ISO. Water moves at 1/25s which is enough to hold by hand if you use a wide angle. Or simply put the camera on the bonnet of your car, put some suitable stuff under body and lens ( lens caps do the trick nicely, add a pack of tissues or so) and set the speed and the self timer. no shake. 2 tons don't move in the wind. I have done it many times.
having said that the place is really beautiful so I hope you got a sharper shot somewhere.
16 Aug 2013 12:48AM
Saw the thumbnail and loved this one from then,so dreamy

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