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paddle boarder

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as the sunset was going down a young lady on a paddle board went by

Tags: General Water Person Paddle boarding

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wsh Plus
1 7 United Kingdom
16 Aug 2019 12:33AM
You could perhaps have used Flash to illuminate the front of the young lady

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wsh Plus
1 7 United Kingdom
16 Aug 2019 12:54AM
You should really consider using fill in flash on this. The background is really well illuminated but the main subject is more or less Black. Her hair and her legs stand out but nothing else. You cannot see her face. Flash may have helped that. Basically, legs on a board with an unidentified body above the legs which I am sure the use of flash would have remedied....
paulbroad Plus
12 131 1285 United Kingdom
16 Aug 2019 7:39AM
You needed flash, but you must look at your settings. Why are you using f22 on manual for a shot like this? Do you have a reason?

You should have been at f5.6 or 8 with accurate focusing.

Paul
capto Plus
7 5.8k 11 United Kingdom
16 Aug 2019 7:43AM
These sort of photo opportunities don't allow much thinking time, just grab a shot and the moment has gone. Post processing can sometimes improve the image. I have done a mod tweaked in Photoshop to get more light on the young lady.
ivor
mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.6k 2078 United Kingdom
16 Aug 2019 8:14AM
Hi Alan, welcome to the Critique Gallery! I see that you joined the site recently.

When you tick the 'critique wanted' box it has the effect of disabling votes and awards, but it invites more in-depth comment. I hope that was your intention, and that you will find it useful. It would be interesting to know how you see this, whether you are satisfied, what aspects you would like advice on.

A few thoughts - the problem here was that you are looking into the light, which has the double effect of tricking the meter into underexposing, and putting the subject in shadow. This is considerably underexposed. It can be improved by increasing exposure, as Ivor has demonstrated (see modifications under the blue Modifications button). Post-processing really is a part of the digital package.

Re the flash suggestion, yes it would help a lot BUT only use flash in a situation like this when the subject is forewarned!!! Otherwise you risk startling her into falling into the water.

The settings generally don't look helpful, and I am curious as to the thinking behind them. I see no point in F22, it's way beyond the range within which the lens will perform at its best, and you don't need massive depth of field here, you just need the subject in focus. No need to go beyond F8 at the smallest, I would have thought.

And then the very slow shutter speed! You got away with it remarkably well, looking at the background I'm wondering if you were panning? It's not an activity where that would normally be an obvious choice... Normally 1/30 second is a shutter speed for motion blur, not for photographing a living creature, human or otherwise, and certainly not for sports action!

I don't see this as a situation for manual. Better to use shutter speed or aperture priority, always watching what the one is doing to the other, with a plus exposure compensation of around one stop.

I shall have a go at a modification now, lightening to retrieve detail, plus some dodging on highlights on the figure.
Regards,
Moira
dudler Plus
16 927 1516 England
16 Aug 2019 10:53AM
And welcome from me, too, Alan - it's nice to see someone here owning one of the Sony cameras I've never tried (I use an Alpha 7, after many years' faithful service from a 900).

A grab shot: that limits what you can do, in all ways. For me, the ideal would have been a shot with the subject a little further to the right, rather than in the middle of the frame, and shot from lower down, so she's almost all against the sky, rather than bisected by the horizon.

I don't have a problem with the lack of flash: a low-key figure, with the lovely play of light around the edge is fine for me. It's an option, but no more - this is as much about the location and occasion as about the girl, and flash would have made it into a portrait. Valid, and a different picture.

Mod coming...
saltireblue Plus
9 9.7k 36 Norway
16 Aug 2019 10:55AM
I see you used multi-segment metering, which means the camera will try to meter based on the whole frame and come to a compromise exposure. I would have used spot metering to ensure that only the girl is metered by the camera and that the lighter background is not taken into account. That way the girl would be lit better, and if the background was too dark for your liking, it is easy to lighten the shadows in post-processing.
16 Aug 2019 11:53AM

Quote:I don't have a problem with the lack of flash: a low-key figure, with the lovely play of light around the edge is fine for me. It's an option, but no more - this is as much about the location and occasion as about the girl, and flash would have made it into a portrait. Valid, and a different picture.

I've nothing new to add, I just want to say that I strongly agree with John here... lightening the image ( or giving more exposure at the taking stage ) would completely change the atmosphere/mood/meaning of the image.

I also agree it may have been a better composition with the girl more to the right. But otherwise, best left as it is, in my opinion.

Alan
16 Aug 2019 2:16PM
thank you all very much for your critique i will take that on board,
banehawi Plus
15 2.1k 4032 Canada
16 Aug 2019 2:44PM
Good effort.
paulbroad Plus
12 131 1285 United Kingdom
17 Aug 2019 7:35AM
Be very careful with spot metering! It should not be used on auto settings unless you are familiar with how metering works. It is imperative that the spot is placed on the correct tone or the reading will be wrong and need modification. Multi segment is best for general photography.

Paul

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