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Pan Rocks at sunset

By Allistairg1964
was out trying new things ie filters and sunset

Tags: Landscape photography Landscape and travel

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mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2404 United Kingdom
3 May 2021 12:36PM
Hello Allistair, nice to see you back in the Critique Gallery!

Could you give us a bit more info please, as to what filter(s) you used, and also what processing you have done? This does look quite heavily processed, so could you also add the original file as a modification please?

Looking at the uploaded image, various things come to mind. The pluses: you have used the foreground rocks well, I know where I am standing, and evening light shows up the textures; and a bridge is always a good subject.

I wonder if it was possible to get a stronger diagonal view? Is there a viewpoint available to our right, on the other side of the bridge, to give a left to right lead-in? Better separation between the lines of the bridge and the horizon would be good, that area is a bit messy here.

Something that jumps out - and it really does hit me between the eyes - is that this needs a significant anti-clockwise rotation. The sea is sloping alarmingly, and look closely at the uprights in the bridge, they need to be vertical. With any image involving a water line, make a check against the grid the first stage in your processing, get it right before you move on to the interesting work...

The sky doesn't say sunset but the warm golden light on the foreground does. I would prefer to see less saturation on yellows and less contrast, the result here is more harsh than mellow, which is why I really would like to see the original.

The other negative that jumps out is the big dark dust blob in the sky - easily removed, but it might be time to think about a sensor clean.
added a modification

mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2404 United Kingdom
3 May 2021 12:40PM
Thanks for adding the original, I have to say that I very much prefer it! It's subtler, more atmospheric. I shall have a go at a modification - and also show the effect of left to right lead-in. Back soon.
Thank you
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2404 United Kingdom
3 May 2021 1:02PM
OK, back again, I have added two modifications. I really do like the light and tones in the original, I don't think it needs heavy processing. When processing jumps out, becomes the main interest, that's a problem for me. Here's what I did:

Rotated to level the sea horizon, then cropped using your aspect ratio with the sea line on the upper third; added 1/4 stop exposure, tweaks to protect detail in shadows and highlights, and plus 18% on the dehaze slider, which brings out sky textures without moving away from the natural world. I used the burn tool very gently to tone down highlights on the bridge, and set to shadows to boost the textures in the sand bottom right. I also got rid of several dust bunnies.

Composed like this, the image leads from the horizon towards us. The horizontal flip leads from where we are towards the horizon, which for me tells a more interesting story. It's about yearning, looking ahead...

The image could be sharper, others will come in on technique.

See what you think.
I like the first mod
How did you it so I can try it

Thank you
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2404 United Kingdom
3 May 2021 1:18PM
Thanks, I've given the details above. Worked in PS Camera Raw filter and in Elements. The main thing is to work with the light, rather than pushing saturation. I never push the burn tool beyond 3 or 4% exposure. Every so often, move back a couple of stages and ask yourself - Am I really improving things?
I think you have made it into a really great image
I know I can be a little heavy handed with editing
have to done this in PS or Lightroom?
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2404 United Kingdom
3 May 2021 1:33PM
PS and Adobe Elements, I don't use LR.
I default to Lightroom first then PS if required Luninar/AI

Thank you
dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 768 England
3 May 2021 1:57PM
The original has attractive soft lighting, pushing contrast and saturation too far gives a coarse unnatural look.
That said, I'm not against a small boost.
It's had quite an effect on the clouds, so when you are procesing images like this it is worth using dfferent amounts for the land and sky, uing Adjustment Layers and Masks.
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
3 May 2021 2:05PM
Moira's said almost all the things I'd want to say - coming along later, I can simply reiterate the need for the horizon to be horizontal - checking and correcting this should be one of your first steps with any edit, and suggest that less is usually more with processing.

Moira says that when the editing eclipses the subject, there's a problem. Always go gently, try greater and lesser settings. And if it looks worse after doing something, go back, don't forge on with more and more corrective attempts!
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4233 Canada
3 May 2021 3:02PM
All of the above, plus: there are 4 or 5 dust spots, so a sensor clean is needed as mentioned by Moira.

Its very soft overall; if you used a tripod, it wasnt solid, if you didnt, you probably should have.

Luminar is a programme thats all about effects to be applied to images, so its not really possible to give a critique when its been used.

I added a mod with details in the description.


The 4th modification is by far my favorite and most dramatic for me. It's natural looking with excellent perspective, color and detail.
I like the 4th mod too
saltireblue Plus
11 11.8k 75 Norway
4 May 2021 5:50PM
One other point I have learned from experience. When you are finished and are feeling happy with what you are seeing, save it with all the layers and leave it at least a couple of hours, then come back and look again with fresh eyes at what you have done. Very often, your instant reaction will be, 'No, that's not good' and then you can start correcting what you see doesn't work.
Thank you everyone for your input

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