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Pasta

By Sillu
I took this at a different angle..
Some times i dont know what to write in here Smile

Tags: Food General Still Tomato Olive oil Pasta Olive

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banehawi Plus
18 2.9k 4333 Canada
15 Oct 2016 2:58AM
I know what you mean.
paulbroad Plus
15 131 1294 United Kingdom
15 Oct 2016 8:29AM
This is very under exposed and thus makes the food look dark and uninviting. You are on manual, but also had flash in use so the settings suggest flash was the light source. The white plate has caused the flash to not deliver enough light and looking at the LCD immediately after the shot should tell you this. Increase flash exposure by at least one stop.

Digital lets you shoot test images for free, then correct. You must learn to recognise the exposure issue at the taking point and correct.

Paul
mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.5k 2563 United Kingdom
15 Oct 2016 9:27AM
I wonder if that neat chevron of four pasta pieces at the top was deliberate? It looks contrived to me, I want a more random arrangement - which of course can be tricky to arrive at...

Apart from that, as above. The plate needs to sparkle white against the background, the food needs to shimmer, as in Willie's mod.

But full marks for a strong, semi-abstract approach to composition. Do you have any square white plates? Placing one diagonally, with a similar position against black background, could be interesting.
Moira
dudler Plus
19 2.0k 1966 England
15 Oct 2016 9:41AM
The technical side is covered above, and I'll stick to the composition: this is vastly better, and makes it into a beautiful design. A real step forward in making images that really 'sell' the dishes you are photographing.

As i wrote about your previous shot, you need to make sure the technicalities are unobtrusively excellent... They should be so good that nobody notices, but not overdone so that the picture becomes about the photography instead of the subject.
mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.5k 2563 United Kingdom
15 Oct 2016 10:56AM
I had a further thought, and I've uploaded two modifications - I've cheated and based these on Willie's mod. Thanks for saving me some time, Willie!

I tried flipping horizontally, just to illustrate the difference in mood when you lead in from the left rather than the right.

Then I cropped tighter, to concentrate on the more randomly placed items.

Really to illustrate the possibilities when you have a strong linear arrangement like this.
Sillu 8 1 Malta
15 Oct 2016 11:46AM
I am finding it real hard ta adit raw as I can't do the same original colours as the jpeg ok i now that jpeg are adit in the camera but they are close to what are the real colours ...
Am i mistaking by saying jpeg are close to real colours?
mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.5k 2563 United Kingdom
15 Oct 2016 12:33PM

Quote:I am finding it real hard ta adit raw as I can't do the same original colours as the jpeg ok i now that jpeg are adit in the camera but they are close to what are the real colours ...
Am i mistaking by saying jpeg are close to real colours?



My personal response, because I do not process colour images very energetically...

I remember having the same feelings when I started with Raw. The files can look flat and dull when you open them up, precisely because they are unedited. Jpegs will look brighter, because they have had that adjustment made already. The real difference is that Raw gives you much more data to work on if you want to. So you can extract the 'real colours' from the file. But you need to want to...

I suggest that you devote some time to checking out what each adjustment will actually give you. Different people have different workflows, for a simple routine I would suggest you work in sequence down the options, taking them in pairs; start by looking at white balance, then combinations of exposure and contrast adjustments, then highlights and shadows, blacks and whites, then maybe a touch in clarity and vibrance.

Something else you can do is to try Auto, see what it does, then see how you can improve on it.
banehawi Plus
18 2.9k 4333 Canada
15 Oct 2016 2:13PM
Yes, a big mistake. You need correct white balance to get the colour as close to real as possible.
paulbroad Plus
15 131 1294 United Kingdom
15 Oct 2016 5:21PM
If you are struggling with RAW, use best JPG. RAW gives the best results but only if you master processing the RAW file. If you don't, you are asking for trouble. Shoot RAW + Best JPG and try and get the processed RAW at least as good as the JPG. If you cannot do that, stay with JPG.

Paul
pamelajean Plus
16 1.8k 2275 United Kingdom
15 Oct 2016 5:31PM
I like this angle. It's precise and uncomplicated, which is what you want when illustrating a menu. Aim for simplicity.
The amount of space around your dishes may be irrelevant here because the restauranteur might want to add some text. So it will probably be unnecessary to say there is a lot of wasted space on the left.
This needs brightening up, so that the food looks more inviting. I like the highlights you are getting.
Again, this may be entirely out of your hands, but the chef should take special care to keep the plate clean on the outside.

Quote:Some times i dont know what to write in here

Say what you hoped to achieve and if you feel you were successful.
Let us know as much information as possible about the end use of these pictures.
Say if you have done any processing already.
Indicate any areas where you feel there is room for improvement, or that you are not happy with.
Say if there are there any specific elements of your photo that you require help with.
You may have some questions that you want answered.


Pamela.
dudler Plus
19 2.0k 1966 England
15 Oct 2016 9:11PM
RAW files offer far more possibilities for changing things, if you want or need to do so.

But the price for this is that they need work, while JPGs are often intended to be 'good enough' straight from the camera.

I shoot both, and often use the JPG - but when I have to correct things, or need to work with more finesse, I will go to the RAW file, and spend some time on it.

It took me years to get to this point, and discover how much more was possible. As Moira says, play with the controls in yoru RAW converter software.
banehawi Plus
18 2.9k 4333 Canada
15 Oct 2016 11:26PM
If you are serious about food photography, and plan to provide a service, use RAW, and get an 18% grey card to include in test shots to calibrate colour, simply click the grey crad when processing and youre done. Very simple. Very accurate.
dark_lord Plus
18 3.0k 835 England
17 Oct 2016 8:58PM
This image was taken before your last upload so can't show if you've found the feedback useful and learned from it.

The exposure issues have been dealt with.

Using RAW is a steep learning curve but gives superior results if you're prepared to put in the time.
But you need to get your lighting and exposure issues sorted first.
Jpgs will be fine for small images in a menu, but what if the restaurant wants to use some images on a big display? that's where the extra quality possible will show through.

Having said all that, this composition is a bold modern approach and looks good. Ideal for a menu if there's to be text on the left (or on the right, if flipped like Moira has done), but also for promotional literature/website etc.

I know there is sauce on the pasta, and in normal serving you do get bits on the plate, but for a photo they become quite noticeable so some tidying up of the dish at the time of taking (usually quicker and easier than working on the computer later) has to be considered.
It's that attention to fine details that top and aspiring food photographers have.
paulbroad Plus
15 131 1294 United Kingdom
19 Oct 2016 8:40AM
Many years ago, when the EOS 40D was my main camera, I did some industrial based shots for a government department. They were shot with tripod, top Canon lens, care and in BEST JPG. The client used one as a poster, printed to 7X5, that's feet not inches and the quality was amazingly good. So, it's all relevant and depends on care and equipment quality.

Paul
Sillu 8 1 Malta
19 Oct 2016 1:06PM
Hi..
Thanks again for your feedback..
Banehawi i ordered a grey card from ebay..
I will try it when it comes..
Il have to do some research in order to use it correctly..
Dark_lord yes you are right this was taken with the others so i really haven't use all the technicalities that all of you wrote...
But nex time when my girlfriend cook's a special plate i will try all of them ( hope it wont get cold tough haha )
Paulbroad i bought a tripod as well so i will try with out flash as well..
Am i using the right programme i use light room,
Or shall i switch to photo shop ?
Or this has to come from me weather i use either or.
Sillu 8 1 Malta
19 Oct 2016 1:10PM
Thanks pamela for the suggestion what to write Smile .. next time i will ..
I will be uploading more photos,
Sorry guys but i took these as i thought is best..
So when i try the suggestion all of you made i will let you know for sure Smile

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