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dawnmichelle 15 12 United States
10 Aug 2011 7:42PM
wonderful processing on this image..well done
stevenb 19 282 7 England
10 Aug 2011 7:59PM
Thank you Dawn

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10 Aug 2011 8:31PM
Hi Steven

The colour, tone and feel of this image is stunning and I enjoyed the colour version too. There are two key issues here and some of this has already been covered in comments made on the previous upload. I do hope you take what I'm about to say constructively.

The garments and shadows - it is very likely that Liz 1 would have worn dresses which dragged on the floor and the hem line would have become creased and mis-shaped accordingly. A very subtle shadow, particularly where the folds are and where the outer dress overlaps the inner dress, will show that she's attached to the ground. The larger the shadow, the higher she appears off the ground. Have a look at the way the curtains touch the ground and you'll see what I mean. Also, you have placed her very close to the window and the front portion of the dress would be casting a shadow. Her right side (left viewing) would be much darker because of the directional light.

She is approximately 30% too large. When placing people it is important to bear in mind that your eye level is always the horizon, i.e. the vanishing point. The colour image provides plenty of clues as to where this is. If you draw construction lines along the diagonals formed by the floor and ceiling and then draw a horizontal line where the lines meet (you may have to increase canvas size to do this), you will see where your eye level is. I tried this and estimate that eye level would be about one third of the way up the large door panel. Assuming Liz 1 would have been the same height as the photographer, her head will always be at the same level, wherever she's placed in the scene. She will, of course have to be a different size depending where she is placed. If you use the bench as a guide, those windows and the door are likely to be in excess of twelve feet high and I'm fairly confident that the photographer was standing when the shot was taken. I was struck by how tall the doors were when we visited Hampton Court. I can send you the image showing the construction if you'd like me to. Just sent a PM with an e-mail address.

This really is a first class piece of work and I hope you accept my comments in the spirit they were intended.

10 Aug 2011 8:39PM
Sorry Bill!
stevenb 19 282 7 England
10 Aug 2011 8:59PM
Hello Nick thanks for taking time to comments it's appreciated, I 've uploaded the starting point photo . I was sat down in a chair in the front row.
As you can see the dress is clear of the floor not on the floor. I don't take an offence by your comments if I did I should not of put the image up for comments.
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Coleslaw 17 13.4k 28 Wales
10 Aug 2011 9:06PM
lol.... she already looked like floating in the original....
10 Aug 2011 9:26PM
Agree Coleslaw, probably because she's lit strongly from the front. I would have expected an Elizabethan dress to brush the floor though, but I'm no expert!

Bill, I think the angle at which the figure is shot can be disguised if she's the correct size in her new scene. It was really this aspect I was referring to. Glad my comments helped.

tommyegan 16 5 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2011 10:14PM
What a load of claptrap this is a cracking image Bill
Well done.
you are making images Bill not blinking Microsurgery.
Well done Best pal
Coleslaw 17 13.4k 28 Wales
11 Aug 2011 12:58PM

Quote:What a load of claptrap

Maybe Steven should listen to Tommy (Best pal) instead.

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