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Queen Victoria

By TornadoTys
An image from my trip to Malta some years back and this statue is situated outside the National Library in Republic Square, Valletta, Malta.
I like the composition at the time and I hope the B&W does give the forma monarch some presence !

once I uploaded this image I noticed I could have centred it a little bit better and the emblem below Queen Victoria could have been lighted slightly !

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dudler Plus
16 950 1521 England
6 Jun 2019 8:57AM
Why, I wonder, post an older picture for critique? Are there aspects that you are particularly pleased with, or worried about?

Personally, I prefer the colour version - the warm sunshine works well, and it's also slightly straighter than the B/W you posted first. It gets away with deep shadow in a way that the mono doesn't - indeed, you brough up the shadows, and that seems to me to have weakened the image a bit. You have, perhaps, tried too hard.

How did you do the conversion? You have the option, if you do anything other than desaturation the image, to tweak the way different colours are scaled on hte tonal range.

In colour, Victoria glows brighter than everything else, which rather suits her, I think.

TornadoTys 4 27 United Kingdom
6 Jun 2019 9:29AM

Quote:Why, I wonder, post an older picture for critique? Are there aspects that you are particularly pleased with, or worried about?

Personally, I prefer the colour version - the warm sunshine works well, and it's also slightly straighter than the B/W you posted first. It gets away with deep shadow in a way that the mono doesn't - indeed, you brough up the shadows, and that seems to me to have weakened the image a bit. You have, perhaps, tried too hard.

How did you do the conversion? You have the option, if you do anything other than desaturation the image, to tweak the way different colours are scaled on hte tonal range.

In colour, Victoria glows brighter than everything else, which rather suits her, I think.




Hi,
Yes it is an old image and one I had looked at from time to time wondering if it was worth the effort. As I was unsure which direction or feel to use.
I used LightRoom to do all the post editing and boosted some tones in colour which when rendered in B&W would hopefully have a better impact.

Reason for critique is for the future if I see a similar composition I may use bracketing, or different f stop depending upon the moment.
banehawi Plus
15 2.1k 4036 Canada
6 Jun 2019 1:40PM
The colour works better. I would think about cropping closer as the lights originally are not in focus, nor is the building behind.


Ive loaded a colour and a mono mod. You have lost quite a bit of highlight detail in the mono conversion, - something to be aware of.



regards



Willie
TornadoTys 4 27 United Kingdom
6 Jun 2019 4:32PM
Banehawl,
The mono mod looks pretty good to me.
I was hoping to pop back later in the day a catch thoughts on to see if it added anything to the composition.

Thanks for the mods
pamelajean Plus
13 1.2k 2094 United Kingdom
6 Jun 2019 8:06PM

Quote:I could have centred it a little bit better

The statue isn't central, as you can see from the space either side of the archway behind her.
On top of that, the lamps aren't set symmetrically (probably simply street lights, rather than being important to the statue itself), and so the image introduces two problems.

So, even if you had moved a little to the right and made Victoria central inside the arch, those lamps would be even less symmetrical.
So, cropping the lamps away is one solution, but the Queen will never be central.

It is, however, a fine statue and an interesting photo to bring home from your holiday.

Pamela.
TornadoTys 4 27 United Kingdom
6 Jun 2019 10:17PM
Hi Pamela,
I was hoping to flank Victoria with the lamps l, though this provides to be more tricky than I thought !

In a similar situation next time I think focus stacking foreground items to keep them sharp and have a nice bokeh background.

Thanks for taking the time to review my image

T
dudler Plus
16 950 1521 England
7 Jun 2019 8:19AM
Willie mentioned focus: and that makes me think on.

The aperture you used gave you quite shallow depth of field, but didn't actually defocus the unsharp areas a lot: given that you shot at 53mm, you might have got more interesting results with a 50mm lens shooting wide open - f/2 or thereabouts would throw the lights and hte background much more out of focus. Bokeh, though, is a function of the lens you use - strictly, it's not having things out of focus, but to do with the qualities of the out-of-focus-ness: it can be good (creamy and smooth) or bad (with harsh artifacts and a jagged look).

As to the time of day - I feel that you got it pretty precisely right when you took this. There's beautiful raking light on the textures of the wall and plinth: ten minutes earlier or later and that would be very different, and probalby far less interesting.
paulbroad Plus
12 131 1285 United Kingdom
7 Jun 2019 12:45PM
For me, it is nearly symmetrical, but not quite. It needs to be exact OR a long way off. I prefer just the middle third. I would get rid of both lights compositionally concentrating on jus the statue, then a richer, warmer black.

Paul
TornadoTys 4 27 United Kingdom
7 Jun 2019 11:30PM
Hi paulbroad,

that is good point

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