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Reflected Effects

By WestCamera
Except for cropping to the edges of the scene this photo is as the camera saw it. It is a reflection in a window of a commercial building. Not only did the reflecting glass distort the scenery but, it also reversed the image as you can see in the yellow sign's lettering. It makes for an interesting scene. I do wish I could reproduce this effect in an editor or with a filter. Does anyone know how it could be done? I'd love to learn how to do it.

Have a nice weekend, everyone.

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13 Jul 2019 6:27PM
Quote: I do wish I could reproduce this effect in an editor or with a filter. Does anyone know how it could be done?

No. Try asking in the Forums.
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1885 England
13 Jul 2019 8:15PM
I hear tell of a tool called liquify in PS, though i have no experience of it.

Image rotation allows you to 'flop' right to left, if you want to.

The other elements are very cool colour, presumably from the glass, and low contrast, which is probably the result of something about the glass as well.

Your portfolio suggests that you like to process heavily - is that right?
banehawi Plus
17 2.6k 4274 Canada
13 Jul 2019 8:55PM
A ripple or wave filter is useful for this, either within Photoshop etc, or you can sometimes find plug in filters.
mrswoolybill Plus
15 3.0k 2467 United Kingdom
14 Jul 2019 7:56AM
Reflections are a fascinating subject, they create a sort of alternative world by merging different views. This is reality but not as we know it...

Look for the effect in the real world, use your eyes, not your software. That's what photography is about!

Incidentally, it can be fun to flip reflections like this horizontally (and water reflections vertically), the result is more puzzling because the eye / brain do not expect to see reflections the 'right way' round / up. I shall demonstrate...
Moira
pamelajean Plus
15 1.7k 2239 United Kingdom
14 Jul 2019 2:11PM
I agree with Moira, Frank, and think it's much more fun seeking out distorted reflections in "the real world".

However, I found THIS tutorial on the internet, which admittedly refers to a building PLUS its reflection.
HERE is another good one, which says, "Distortion: Often, mirrored images are distorted by uneven glass or fragmented reflective surfaces. Experiment with distortions. Slight changes in position can drastically alter the appearance of a reflection so try moving around to see how an image might develop".

But I also had a look at my own editing programme, PaintshopPro2019, and discovered that, under the Effects section, there is an option called "Displacement Map" which does just what you want. If you look for "displacement" in whatever software you have for editing, you might find something like this. I am showing 2 modifications, one with my original building, the other using this effect.
The effect is quite extreme, but there are greater or lesser options for the effect.

Pamela.
WestCamera 2 121 United States
14 Jul 2019 5:06PM

Quote:I hear tell of a tool called liquify in PS, though i have no experience of it.

Image rotation allows you to 'flop' right to left, if you want to.

The other elements are very cool colour, presumably from the glass, and low contrast, which is probably the result of something about the glass as well.

Your portfolio suggests that you like to process heavily - is that right?



It may surprise you, but I do not edit that much. My first love of photography is doing street. Editing for that is very limited - leveling and sharpening. That's about it. I recently joined a site named Deviant Art. I find myself spending lots of time there wandering through its galleries. The sort of art found there is indeed heavy processing. I am sure exposure to this has begun wearing off on me. It is more of an influence to 'see' that way rather than 'create' that way at this time. I recently purchased a Sony camera which cannot be applied to street photography because of its very slow operation. However, I found a built-in creative filter within it named "HDR-Paintnig". And, I recently have been using this camera and effect filter for my casual photography. This is why the general 'look' or style of my posted photos on ePhotozine look as they do. At this point I am not sure if I want to get into the heavy editing necessary to produce this effect. Too much do I enjoy shooting photography instead of editing it. But, I feel that the play time with this effect editor is passing, and I am getting more serious in working towards 'style' in my photography. So, I am becoming interested in how to apply effects dependably and consistently for a purpose.
WestCamera 2 121 United States
14 Jul 2019 5:11PM

Quote:Reflections are a fascinating subject, they create a sort of alternative world by merging different views. This is reality but not as we know it...

Look for the effect in the real world, use your eyes, not your software. That's what photography is about!

Incidentally, it can be fun to flip reflections like this horizontally (and water reflections vertically), the result is more puzzling because the eye / brain do not expect to see reflections the 'right way' round / up. I shall demonstrate...
Moira



You are quite right about water waves. At certain times of the day I've found I can get some very interesting shots of small surface waves on ponds of water that are quite pleasing and interesting. Thank you for your remarks.
WestCamera 2 121 United States
14 Jul 2019 5:22PM

Quote:I agree with Moira, Frank, and think it's much more fun seeking out distorted reflections in "the real world".

However, I found THIS tutorial on the internet, which admittedly refers to a building PLUS its reflection.
HERE is another good one, which says, "Distortion: Often, mirrored images are distorted by uneven glass or fragmented reflective surfaces. Experiment with distortions. Slight changes in position can drastically alter the appearance of a reflection so try moving around to see how an image might develop".

But I also had a look at my own editing programme, PaintshopPro2019, and discovered that, under the Effects section, there is an option called "Displacement Map" which does just what you want. If you look for "displacement" in whatever software you have for editing, you might find something like this. I am showing 2 modifications, one with my original building, the other using this effect.
The effect is quite extreme, but there are greater or lesser options for the effect.

Pamela.



Thank you for making all the effort reflected in your comments on my behalf. Very nice of you. I will keep an eye open for 'displacement' terms in the editors that are available to me. I hope to find some filters with the same term as well. Strictly speaking I am not sure that just 'reflection' is all that I want. It is more the style or effect in the reflection that interests me. Thank you once again.
WestCamera 2 121 United States
14 Jul 2019 5:24PM
Thank you everyone for your comments and suggestions. I hope to be able to reflect them in my photography posted here on ePhotozine in the near future. Thanks once again.
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1885 England
14 Jul 2019 5:48PM
On HDR (that would explain the colour and lack of contrast, in fact).

High Dynamic Range is a technique that uses at least two frames with different exposures but identical content to cope with scenes with a very hight level of contrast that cameras can't cope with.

But it's also become a trendy thing to fake, giving low contrast and weird colour. Many people (including me) see this as a bit of a fad that will be forgotten in the same way as bad clothes fashion.

If you use in-camera HDR a lot, that would give a very 'processed' look, and maybe that's what I saw.

And you did say that you wished you could reproduce the effect in editing.
paulbroad 14 131 1293 United Kingdom
15 Jul 2019 9:16PM
This is one of the reasons that I never consider lens babies and other distortion producing lenses and filters. one or two can be interesting, but then that's enough. I would just keep looking in windows1

Paul
WestCamera 2 121 United States
17 Jul 2019 3:50PM

Quote:On HDR (that would explain the colour and lack of contrast, in fact).

High Dynamic Range is a technique that uses at least two frames with different exposures but identical content to cope with scenes with a very hight level of contrast that cameras can't cope with.

But it's also become a trendy thing to fake, giving low contrast and weird colour. Many people (including me) see this as a bit of a fad that will be forgotten in the same way as bad clothes fashion.

If you use in-camera HDR a lot, that would give a very 'processed' look, and maybe that's what I saw.

And you did say that you wished you could reproduce the effect in editing.


The surprising thing about built-in effects filters in cameras is that in researching what cameras have them I found the most articles are about built-in effects filters in DSLR's. My understanding that the purpose of such filters is for people who don't like to do editing very much. This is where my understanding of what using a DSLR separates from the expectation of camera manufacturers. I have always believed that most DSLR users are expected to shoot in RAW since back in 2009 (when I started to do digital photography) RAW capability was only found in DSLR's. And, to shoot in RAW means to edit as well. So, it seems strange to me that the cameras where built-in special effects filters are most often found are those used by people most likely to do editing as well.

What does 'editing' mean? To you it may mean employing full Photoshop. But, to me it means employing a simple online editor like Photoshop Express. Thus when I say I would like to learn to be able to get the effect noted in editing I am referring to simple push button and slider editing like PS Express. It is important in conversation to be careful with what one assumes terms to mean. Therefore it is not a contradiction to say as I did that I would like to learn to edit for this effect as well. However, 'edit' to me means something different than it does to you. Recall that the camera used in this case is a Sony WX150. Researching it would tell you that it has no manual modes, but is a simple point and shoot automatic camera with a variety of auto modes. Not a DSLR or camera that offers the user a lot of opportunity for input. A user of such a camera is likely not going to be one who edits extensively. We all tend towards more replying through the assumptions we make about one another rather than first thinking through just who is the opposite in the conversation..
WestCamera 2 121 United States
18 Jul 2019 5:06PM
I am not sure how to copy a photo to a discussion. So here is the url for this photo:

https://www.ephotozine.com/user/westcamera-325423/gallery/photo/liquify-57425623/

This photo above is a demonstration of how I applied 'liquify' i found in an editor I use for the effect it gives. I can see that this tool would be effective in getting the effect I spoke of above. I just wanted to comeback and follow up. I did take your advice. Thank you for offering it. I appreciate it very much. My best.
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1885 England
18 Jul 2019 10:30PM
So much is there for those who search... PS is a bit of a standard, though there are other excellent (and generally cheaper) editors, as well as online stuff and shareware like Gimp2.

It's an occupational hazard for those of us who are very heavily committed to taking pictures that we accept certain things as 'necessary' - a bit the same way as some regard a 5-litre V8 as necessary for a car, when 3 cylinders and one litre actually do the business...
WestCamera 2 121 United States
27 Jul 2019 12:09AM

Quote:So much is there for those who search... PS is a bit of a standard, though there are other excellent (and generally cheaper) editors, as well as online stuff and shareware like Gimp2.

It's an occupational hazard for those of us who are very heavily committed to taking pictures that we accept certain things as 'necessary' - a bit the same way as some regard a 5-litre V8 as necessary for a car, when 3 cylinders and one litre actually do the business...



Yes. I understand. And, I am probably the odd ball by still using a p&s with a free online editor when I have been doing digital since 2009. By this time anyone else would have advanced to better. But, financial restraint has a way of taking a good grip of progress. Truth be said, I am the snap shooter that has only the wish but neither the talent nor money be be a fine photographer. Thank you for sharing your interesting thoughts.
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1885 England
28 Jul 2019 8:33PM
Anyone can be a good craftsman, by learning to work with the grain instead of against it.

It's the dilettantes that never progress, because they won't put in the practice.
WestCamera 2 121 United States
30 Jul 2019 4:04PM

Quote:Anyone can be a good craftsman, by learning to work with the grain instead of against it.

It's the dilettantes that never progress, because they won't put in the practice.



My perspective is different. You can seek and find what makes you happy or you can spend your life chasing after the crowd. I am happy with my own road. Chasing or following just is not as much fun as being the master of your own ship.
dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1885 England
1 Aug 2019 7:59AM
And that's fine, as well - happiness matters, and identifying what makes you happy is the first step (apart from realising that happiness matters!)

I find that one of the things that makes me happy is mastering certain tools, from a saw to a long lens: it's not to do with chasing a crowd, though.

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