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RELUCTANT ROBIN

By Tish1    
This little fella came to greet me in the mornings, eventually perching himself on the wall all but next to me; although I suspect it was my dressing gown he was fascinated by rather than me.

On my computer, he is bright and vibrant, but as soon as I uploaded him to EPZ he appeared dull and dirge. Consequently I changed the exposure settings in a variety of ways and yet still my Reluctant Robin refuses to shine, has anyone got any ideas s to what I am doing wrong. I have included variants re the exposure changes for reference.

Any help much appreciated.

Tish

Tags: General Robin Wildlife and nature Portraits and people

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banehawi Plus
15 2.1k 4036 Canada
13 Sep 2014 5:49PM
I assume V1 is the one close to the original.

To confirm, when you view this here on EPZ, it looks different, - worse, dull, that the original you have on your PC that you used to upload this?

And you send EPZ the original file which you adjusted, and let EPZ re size it?

W

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Hermanus 7 4 South Africa
13 Sep 2014 5:52PM
Of all the variations I still like V1 best Tish !! Lovely bird Grin
Tish1 Plus
6 32 5 United Kingdom
13 Sep 2014 5:55PM

Quote:I assume V1 is the one close to the original.

To confirm, when you view this here on EPZ, it looks different, - worse, dull, that the original you have on your PC that you used to upload this?

And you send EPZ the original file which you adjusted, and let EPZ re size it?

W



Yes, yes and yes, definitely duller than the original.

Tish
banehawi Plus
15 2.1k 4036 Canada
13 Sep 2014 5:59PM
Compare Mod1 to Mod2 Tish, and send me the original plse.

W
Tish1 Plus
6 32 5 United Kingdom
13 Sep 2014 6:02PM

Quote:Compare Mod1 to Mod2 Tish, and send me the original plse.

W



There he is, there's my bright Robin in Mod 1

Tish
banehawi Plus
15 2.1k 4036 Canada
13 Sep 2014 6:05PM
Ok, waiting for the original..


W
dudler Plus
16 951 1521 England
13 Sep 2014 6:06PM
This is really a little weird, and I suspect Willie will be the one to unravel the mystery.

First, what processing have you done on the first version? Any special effects? Is it heavily cropped?

It would be really useful if you could upload a completely unprocessed version as a mod or a version, so we can see where you started.

There's an overall level of noise that I wouldn't expect to see from a D800 at 1,000 ISO, which makes me think this is heavily cropped. It's also slightly odd that the image is 793 by 821 pixels.

I reckon there may be white balance issues (I see you were set on auto) in there, too.

I've done a mod to reduce noise, using Nik Dfine 2, and have duly lost some detail. I then corrected white balance in Elements 12, and increased saturation.

Does that make the colour pop a bit more?
dudler Plus
16 951 1521 England
13 Sep 2014 6:07PM
And, indeed, while I was musing, Willie was on the case...

A solution is at hand.
Tish1 Plus
6 32 5 United Kingdom
13 Sep 2014 6:09PM

Quote:This is really a little weird, and I suspect Willie will be the one to unravel the mystery.

First, what processing have you done on the first version? Any special effects? Is it heavily cropped?

It would be really useful if you could upload a completely unprocessed version as a mod or a version, so we can see where you started.

There's an overall level of noise that I wouldn't expect to see from a D800 at 1,000 ISO, which makes me think this is heavily cropped. It's also slightly odd that the image is 793 by 821 pixels.

I reckon there may be white balance issues (I see you were set on auto) in there, too.

I've done a mod to reduce noise, using Nik Dfine 2, and have duly lost some detail. I then corrected white balance in Elements 12, and increased saturation.

Does that make the colour pop a bit more?



It is quite heavily cropped, must send Willie the actual original, it was processed in LR5

Tish
Tish1 Plus
6 32 5 United Kingdom
13 Sep 2014 6:10PM

Quote:This is really a little weird, and I suspect Willie will be the one to unravel the mystery.

First, what processing have you done on the first version? Any special effects? Is it heavily cropped?

It would be really useful if you could upload a completely unprocessed version as a mod or a version, so we can see where you started.

There's an overall level of noise that I wouldn't expect to see from a D800 at 1,000 ISO, which makes me think this is heavily cropped. It's also slightly odd that the image is 793 by 821 pixels.

I reckon there may be white balance issues (I see you were set on auto) in there, too.

I've done a mod to reduce noise, using Nik Dfine 2, and have duly lost some detail. I then corrected white balance in Elements 12, and increased saturation.

Does that make the colour pop a bit more?



You have definitely brought him back to his former self!

Tish
banehawi Plus
15 2.1k 4036 Canada
13 Sep 2014 7:05PM
How does that last mod look to you Tish. Its cropped from your original.


W
Jasper87 Plus
9 2.3k 157 England
13 Sep 2014 7:47PM
Had a play as well, Tish. Used the clarity plug in from Topaz and applied a skin smoothing. Selectively sharpened the eye then selectively took the greenish cast out of the background. Haven't touched saturation or vibrancy though.

Dave
craggwildlifephotography Junior Member 11 137 1 United Kingdom
13 Sep 2014 8:32PM
mod 6 just a few tweeks in CS6 and some noise reduction

Did it an an overall mod not just the robin. with your ISO set at 1000 difficult to get it any sharper without a high noise level..

David
Nikonuser1 Plus
7 159 16 United Kingdom
13 Sep 2014 11:16PM
Nice robin Tish. Smile

Cliff
ddolfelin Plus
7 103 3 Wales
14 Sep 2014 9:21AM
Lost me among the teckie bits.
The main picture is absolutely fine.
TrevBatWCC Plus
11 13 12 England
14 Sep 2014 11:39AM
A lovely little robin, Tish, and posed very nicely for you too! Smile
It does seem rather noisy, probably due to a combination of high ISO, but enhanced more by heavily cropping. I've taken V1, and brightened it using Levels, then used some noise reduction (I use a plugin by Imagenomic called Noiseware, which is very good). Also with the Dodge Tool, I've brightened the highlight in the eye. I always save my images to EPZ using 'Save for Web' in my Photoshop Elements, set the new image size to 1000 pixels (as per EPZ's maximum allowed size) on the longest side and tick the 'Embed Color Profile', optimize the size to 400K (again the recommended maximum per EPZ's allowance), then save.
Hope this helps! Smile
Trev Smile

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