Remembrance in a small northern town

By mrswoolybill
A year ago today.
Both of these are important to me, but I'm not totally satisfied with either – I was dithering right up to the last minute as to which one I would lead with. V2 is the picture that I really wanted, but it needs much better detail in the medals (and a lot of work has gone into extracting the detail that there is!) for the shallow depth of field to work. Darned difficult, the sun was bouncing off those medals.
I shall be trying to capture similar contrasts at this morning's ceremony.
Thanks for looking,
Moira

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CarolG Plus
9 193 18 Greece
11 Nov 2012 8:11AM
They wear their medals with pride, Moira, and quite rightly so. Two fine images. Carol

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morpheus1955 9 3 2 United Kingdom
11 Nov 2012 8:28AM
Two excellent images

Hugh
jaktis Plus
12 84 Sweden
11 Nov 2012 9:01AM
I love v2

Peter
11 Nov 2012 9:16AM
V2 is brilliant Moira, it says SO much. And great to see two of the Medals that my Granddad had, on this fine old Soldier.

John Smile
Fefe Plus
4 23 31 United Kingdom
11 Nov 2012 9:23AM
V2 for me.
Diane
rontear Plus
13 8 7 England
11 Nov 2012 9:34AM
V2 Moira, emotive excellence.
Ron.
franken Plus
13 3.8k 4 Wales
11 Nov 2012 9:56AM
Wonderful tributes Moira.

Ken
11 Nov 2012 10:33AM
V1 for the expressions Moira, V2 is lacking a little something, could be it's let down by the children's expressions which are all better in V1.
The ex-servicemen are aware of what's coming the children look uncertain but interested, the girl with her fingers in her mouth will no doubt get laldy from her Mother.

Dougie
Rende Plus
9 38 4 Netherlands
11 Nov 2012 11:21AM
I like them both, but I think V2 is the more special one. The contrast between the "real"medals and the "baby medals" is particularly appealing.
Rende
saltireblue Plus
5 5.6k 33 Norway
11 Nov 2012 11:42AM
V2 - In a way, the softness and partial lack of detail in the medals represents the gradual fading of the memories for the ever decreasing numbers who were there and can remember. The expression of the Scouts shows their lack of understanding, but that will come with age...
V1 represents the past and future, with the current generation observing from the back, their task to look after both the other generations.

Malc
helenlinda Plus
8 343 22 United Kingdom
11 Nov 2012 1:48PM
v2 for me Moira - another example of your amazing skill to find pictures in two parts SmileSmile
Helen
Joline Plus
9 27 52 United States
11 Nov 2012 2:07PM
v2 tells the story of those who know, and those I hope never know.
gingerdelight 9 298 11 United Kingdom
11 Nov 2012 2:58PM
Two very fine images here Moira - for me personally the composition and anonimity of V2 appeals more.
Carol
SUE118 Plus
7 8 1 United Kingdom
11 Nov 2012 3:07PM
Old and new faces a lovely image.
mrswoolybill Plus
9 877 1434 United Kingdom
11 Nov 2012 3:59PM
My sincere thanks to everyone who has voted and commented here today. I knew I should have led with V2...
I've been busy processing pictures from this morning - I'll upload a little set tomorrow. I'm a bit disappointed as the arrangements were a bit different to last year's, the veterans stood some distance from the children. But I got a picture to carry forward for the town's calendar, which was part of the job.
Bill is busy burning discs to distribute tomorrow.
Moira
frz67 6 10 32 Italy
11 Nov 2012 4:34PM
hope they wont have to remember sad days other than this.

francesco
11 Nov 2012 4:54PM
Two super candids, Moira - I rather like V2, so that has to be my fave today Smile
Trev Smile
Those three could tell us some stories, terrific shot for this time of reflection
sable 7 9 7 England
11 Nov 2012 6:17PM
To very nice candids V2 is my choice xx

tyhank you for your comments on my todays upload xx
pluckyfilly Plus
9 350 33 United Kingdom
11 Nov 2012 8:17PM
lets hope we never have to go to war in this country again, sad that we have to be fighting with loss of life in other countries now
dmhuynh72 8 44 3 United Kingdom
11 Nov 2012 9:26PM
V2 is so evocative Moira, both excellent shots.
regards
Yung
11 Nov 2012 9:52PM
Yes, I see where you’re going on V2 Moira, I hope it works for you this time.
Still, two very clever shots, I like them both.

David
pdcche 5 4 United Kingdom
11 Nov 2012 10:20PM
Great tribute images Moira, Peter..
mikbee 9 3 8 Scotland
11 Nov 2012 11:16PM
Captures the moment very well I feel Moira.
Good to see the youngsters involved here too !!
Good shots.
Mick.
nonur Plus
7 15 9 Turkey
12 Nov 2012 10:29AM
Love them both, Moira! V1 for the compo and wonderful expressions and V2 for the thought it provokes.
Glostopcat Plus
10 255 2 England
12 Nov 2012 5:33PM
I like both very much Moira, two fine images that perfectly epitomise what Remembrance Day is all about
AnneWorner 8 620 43 United States
12 Nov 2012 6:31PM
I've gone back and forth between the two of these - keep getting drawn back to v2 - it's that little girl on the right that conveys the emotion of this so much for me.

We don't pay as much homage in this country as you do in yours. It's an official holiday here today - yesterday was the official Veteran's day.

Anne
MacroMeister 3 62 4 United Kingdom
13 Nov 2012 9:48AM
Structure-wise, #1 doesn't work for me at all. The shot is split clearly into two by the ex-soldiers on either side. And everyone apart from one is looking off-shot at something - the parade? We don't know, do we? I think it might have worked a lot better if the chap on the left had been facing into the shot (like the gent on the right) and that girl at the front had been looking straight at the camera. That would have been quite symbolic of 'those who have served giving way to a younger generation' etc. As it is I'm finding it hard to look at the shot and find something definite to focus upon.

I do appreciate that it portrays an emotional scene that reflects something going on in society, and therefore is considered to have the power to evoke empathy. But that doesn't mean that it automatically is a great opportunity for great shots?

#2 is a much better composition. It's technically better, and gives more weight to the emotional structure. Although you could have moved left a bit to just get the girl who seems to by crying.
mrswoolybill Plus
9 877 1434 United Kingdom
13 Nov 2012 10:01AM
Interesting comment MacroMeister, thanks for your thoughts.

Quote:everyone apart from one is looking off-shot at something - the parade? We don't know, do we?
Now I assume that you quote this as a criticism, I would view it as a compliment! I have long reckoned that the site divides between the photographers who want satisfying answers and those who want questions unanswered.
I do agree that V2 is the better composition, but technically it has severe shortcomings for me.
This sort of event is a lottery - I went down yesterday hoping to get something similar, but I have no idea where the war veterans were positioned, they were nowhere near to the youth groups. So one takes what is available. There's a related discussion going on re. 213hardy's upload .
And round here, once you have taken up your position, no, you cannot move a bit to one side, not without a sharp elbowing from the ladies!
Cheers,
Moira
MacroMeister 3 62 4 United Kingdom
13 Nov 2012 12:51PM

Quote:This sort of event is a lottery - I went down yesterday hoping to get something similar, but I have no idea where the war veterans were positioned, they were nowhere near to the youth groups. So one takes what is available. There's a related discussion going on re. 213hardy's upload.
And round here, once you have taken up your position, no, you cannot move a bit to one side, not without a sharp elbowing from the ladies!
Cheers,
Moira



Yeah, I agree with that, and I meant to say 'you often have to work with what is there'. But that just emphasizes the need to think 'on the spot' in such situations, and it isn't easy to do that. I do appreciate that. Luck plays a part, of course, but you need to take a lot of shots to just get a lucky angle/pose. Even top professional photographers say that you need to take lots of shots. As a matter of interest, how many shots did you take in the time you were at the parade?
annettep38 Plus
4 217 38 Costa Rica
16 Nov 2012 10:17AM
no 2 for me, priceless Smile it may technically not be perfect, but it is the faces, the atmosphere that counts.
mrswoolybill Plus
9 877 1434 United Kingdom
16 Nov 2012 12:36PM

Quote:As a matter of interest, how many shots did you take in the time you were at the parade?

Just checked back. For the parade as a whole, 71; of those 29 taken in the course of about 10 minutes at the Church, before and after the two minute silence. No pictures taken during the act of remembrance, of course.
Moira
mrswoolybill Plus
9 877 1434 United Kingdom
16 Nov 2012 1:38PM
PS More pictures (mine plus the Other Half's) available here . Most of what we do is as volunteers for the town Council and Community Partnership, of which I am a Trustee.
mrswoolybill Plus
9 877 1434 United Kingdom
17 Nov 2012 9:35PM

Quote:I think it might have worked a lot better if the chap on the left had been facing into the shot (like the gent on the right) and that girl at the front had been looking straight at the camera.

I've been ignoring this bit in the hope that it would go away but of course it won't. I also started off thinking that it might be intended humorously, but subsequent exchanges have persuaded me that it was meant seriously. I have to say (and probably nobody else will ever read this) that this is probably the daftest comment that I have ever read on one of my uploads.
So, there I am, standing alongside the vicar, who is about to start the Act of Remembrance, and the scouts, brownies, veterans are assembling in front of me. And I shout out 'Sorry folks, you don't look very organised do you? Everyone please look forward, it will make a much better picture'.
For God's sake this is real life. People don't all look at the same thing. Not even at parades.

Quote:As it is I'm finding it hard to look at the shot and find something definite to focus upon.

So let the eye wander... It won't make you go blind. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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