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resident garden Robin on my reflection pool for a drink

By StevenFenton
resident garden Robin on my reflection pool for a drink

Tags: Birds Wildlife and nature Robins birds wildlife nature

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dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1879 England
23 Sep 2021 10:00PM
Hi, Steve -

Welcome to EPZ, and also to the Critique Gallery. Did you mean to put this shot in the Gallery, I wonder? After all, you've only just joined the site: and there are no votes or awards here, though you will get focussed feedback.

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Feathers aren't my area, but this looks pretty good, although the bird's a bit close to the right hand side of the frame for my taste.

Over to you - critique works best as a conversation, and if you didn't want detailed comments, just let us know.
23 Sep 2021 10:07PM
wanted to know if the picture was good enough and if not how could it be improved
dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 784 England
23 Sep 2021 10:33PM
Welcome from me too.

You have some nice lighting picking out the bird, a catchlight in the eyem the birdis sharp and in song. All good.

The strong light has caused some loss of detail in the highlights so it would have been better touse less exposure and ringup the shadow detail. If you shoot RAW that detail may well be recoverable, but once it's gone in a jpg it's gone for good.

The bird is quite close to the frame edge. Do you have the original image (you can upload this as a mod) as alternative crops may be available.
23 Sep 2021 10:40PM
picture is cropped that way because l had to crop out part of the pond liner,
banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4272 Canada
23 Sep 2021 11:08PM
Its a good shot in general.Youve taken quite a few robin shots I notice.

We dont know the aperture, I assume its wide open? Also dont know how tightly its cropped, one reason to upload the original apart from cropping, and we can also get a feel for how much post processing hs already been done to the image we see here, helps with feedback; you can click Modifications and upload it there.

Its says you shot in JPEG and not RAW, - is this correct? RAW can sometimes give you an advantage when processing.

Crop, - I would suggest allowing more height; noise can be reduced a little more; lift shadows on the robin only; sharpen the eye a tad.

Ive done all this in the mod, with a small frame added.

Hope this helps


chase Plus
16 2.2k 583 England
24 Sep 2021 10:45AM
Hi and welcome back to the Critique Gallery.
A nice capture with the Robin singing away.
Not quite as sharp and detailed as i would have liked to have seen but, a nice catchlight in the eye, which is so very important to bring your subject alive.
Colours look good despite what looks like harsh light. Just a little more room on the right would have been advantageous and I do like the extra bit of space at the top that Willie has included in his mod.
Taking images in Raw is the way to go, ives you much more leeway during your editing.

Showing us the original before your crop would be good, maybe we could off some different ways of presenting your subject other than cropping.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2462 United Kingdom
24 Sep 2021 11:45AM
Welcome from me too! And thanks for answering John's question different people look for different things from the Critique Gallery.

I too would like to see the original, particularly if you have cropped - this is a bit cramped in the frame. I'm also wondering if you have isolated the bird and/or the background for local adjustments. The edge of the breast is very hard, with a hint of a dark halo; the top of the head, immediately above the eye, has a similar look.

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