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By lagomorphhunter
A simple picture of a rose which was in a bunch of flowers. I'm quite pleased with it due to the simplicity and the beauty of the rose.
Any ideas on how to improve it? I will add a jpeg of the original for reference. I always shoot in raw.
I did add this just for votes, was less popular than I thought it may be, not a problem but prodded me to ask for feedback!

Tags: Rose Flowers and plants

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10 Aug 2019 12:36PM
Beautiful image


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banehawi Plus
15 2.1k 4020 Canada
10 Aug 2019 2:08PM
Not a lot wrong with the original really. Dont judge the image by the votes either, - its not necessarily any indication of how good it is.

Seeing the original (thanks for that) there are other option beside a close square crop. I also wonder why you used f/32 when you could have used, quite effectively, f/11 or f/16, and perhaps being in a position to disable flash? It gives a harsh appearance usually unless diffused.

I used the original to download and modify.

I found that using a warmer white balance gave a more pleasing overall tone; the rose itself is quite underexposed, and including a little more of the waxy leaves is an option for a different composition.

All done in the mod, with a frame added.



capto Plus
7 5.7k 11 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 2:14PM
I have just added a little blur to the background.
The number of votes an image gets is never an indication of how good, or not, the shot is.
When you view an image that you like, just file to memory the reasons why you liked it.
mrswoolybill Plus
12 1.5k 2066 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 4:16PM
The rose is a beauty. Technically the original image is slightly underexposed, and I would prefer F11 simply because you will get a better result from the lens. But the end result is a lovely image of the flower itself.

The problem as so often is the surrounding clutter. Simplicity needs to be simple... The problem that I see with your crop is that it left the main distractions, the ight coloured petals of other flowers, prominently and eye-catchingly placed in the corners of the frame. This could have reduced the image's appeal in the main gallery. Flower photographers tend to be quite fussy about detail.

The petals at the top of the frame are a real problem because they and their shadow overlap the main flower. If you crop just a wee bit tighter there it will look careless. One alternative is a radical crop that looks deliberate.

I've taken liberties with the image. Once I had improved exposure on the flower, I isolated the background and feathered by a few pixels to avoid a hard, cut-out edge, then blacked out everything but the flower. Then a bit of a play with canvas, placement and framing.

A bit of sharpening, because that can really make water droplets sparkle.

I think the result looks quite stylish, and has the virtue of simplicity, but it may be too far away from the original experience for you.
pamelajean Plus
13 1.2k 2085 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2019 7:48PM

Quote:I'm quite pleased with it due to the simplicity and the beauty of the rose

Moira comments about simplicity, and I have to agree wholeheartedly with this.
The rose you chose is in a bunch and you simply went in close on one of the flowers, leaving bits and pieces surrounding it. Far better to separate the rose from the bunch, place it in a vase and set it against a neutral background. Then it is the star of the show, with no distractions. You don't even have to include the vase in your picture.

The droplets are lovely, and really lift the photo, Athough not recommended, your use of flash has given those droplets a sparkle. which is just what they need.

We all have different ideas about presentation, and you will see my favoured flower processing in my portfolio. However, with this, I decided to leave some of the foliage around your rose. The overlapping white flower at the top is the difficulty when trying to isolate your rose. It is casting a shadow on a rose petal, and a bit of cloning would need to be done.

So, my modification shows a crop and the removal of some stray bits and pieces around the edges of the frame. But the important thing is that the rose is dominant, the other bits are subordinate, and not strong enough to distract from your rose.

The image needed brightening, sharpening and offsetting in the frame, as opposed to being central. I did all of these.

It has been said that you shouldn't worry about votes, but I am glad that the lack of them prompted you to upload this picture to the Critique Gallery, and I hope we have given you some ideas for future flower shots to have a bit more impact.

Hi All,
thanks all for all your ideas and feedback. I used flash as I'm playing with it and learning TTL flash, that's why it was on. I used the F32 as I wanted as much in focus as possible and the lens is pretty good even at F32. I could try again another day with another flower to compare though.
This was as I say just a bit of fun to play with the flash, came out better than I was expecting!
I have just uploaded my version based on all above. I wonder if I should remove the last sharpen as the droplets now look a tad artificial / not right?
dudler Plus
16 895 1504 England
12 Aug 2019 9:55AM
Coming late to the party...

I wonder if the flash is just a tad strong? It's given a simple, rather forensic image: that may have less visual appeal than a softer, gentler look.
paulbroad Plus
12 131 1285 United Kingdom
13 Aug 2019 1:17PM
You do what gives you the result that you want and this is pretty good. Exposure and sharpness are te two main basics of a good image and you are lose here. I often use a diffuser over the flash tube, especially when close. a bit of tissue paper and an elastic band can work very well.

don't let votes and wards swing you. They are very subjective indeed and I have seen images with votes AND awards that should have seen deleted in terms of image quality. Read the comments and think about what has been said. decide what applies to you and off you go.


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