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Rose experimenting with low light and using PS and Viveza

By Tianshi_angie

Tags: Rose Flowers and plants

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dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
28 Mar 2021 12:51PM
That's a tough one, Angie!

I definitely like the composition, but I think that the effect (which has knocked off both highlights and shadows) is overpowering, and calls attention to itself, and away from the rose.

Others may have more and better ideas, but that's my take on it.
28 Mar 2021 1:28PM
Thanks John - that is actually very helpful. Not having much to photograph at the moment (at least my 'inventiveness' is not working!) I have resorted to going backwards just to try and adapt or create. So it does add to my thoughts. Thanks.
pamelajean Plus
15 1.5k 2214 United Kingdom
28 Mar 2021 1:31PM
Hello again, Angie.

This is going to be a hard one to critique unless we can see the original. You can upload that as a modification. Click on the blue modifications button below your picture and follow the instructions.

It looks as if you have done two things. Firstly, you used low light and secondly you put a light circle on the rose. The light circle isn't attractive and in fact destroys the dark presentation that you initially wanted. The two things don't go together.
Knowing your reasons behind this would help us a lot.

If you like the result that you have achieved, please say so, and we can then only say whether we like it or not. But if you have reservations, we can offer alternative processing suggestions once you have uploaded the original.


PS: Whilst I was typing, you made the above comment. I understand that you are working on old images and trying to come up with some creative presentations?
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.8k 2404 United Kingdom
28 Mar 2021 1:35PM
The effect calling attention to itself, yes that's my feeling. And I'm not convinced that low light, without any highlights, can work for the subject. I'd want to concentrate on the light first, get it right on the centre of the flower. Concentrate on that and let the processing play second fiddle.
28 Mar 2021 3:17PM
Thanks Pamela and Moira, yes I have been revisiting photos from the past as many I have not processed at all - this being one of them. The circle behind the rose was quite a surprise to me. It appeared as I lightened the corners of the image with Viveza. I can only think that it was a reflection from the light I shone on the rose to get the centre highlighted. I have no additional photographic equipment - camera, flash and tripod - so added light is either a table tamp or a torch.
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4233 Canada
28 Mar 2021 6:02PM
A couple of things to add.

The light you worked with here is really not low light; what you have is an underexposed image in decent light with some harsh light in the centre.

If I use the original image, and expose it more, and tone down the brightest parts, it looks not too bad.

Its uploaded as a mod.

So an increase in exposure, using perhaps 1/125th or slower may have worked out better for you. Also, as mentioned before, use the default metering mode rather than SPOT, - it will get you into a spot of trouble!


28 Mar 2021 6:07PM
Thanks Willie - you leave me astounded! Sorry if that sounds weird but so much that I have believed in is so wrong! I think I am now too old to learn new tricks - actually to learn properly! Thank you!
pamelajean Plus
15 1.5k 2214 United Kingdom
28 Mar 2021 9:02PM
Thanks for getting back to us, Angie, and for uploading your original.
Willie has produced a very acceptable image from it.

You are never too old to learn new tricks.
Experimenting is never a waste of time or effort because you can learn a lot by doing so.
We are always here to help.

dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1841 England
29 Mar 2021 8:22AM
I agree with Pamela, on all counts!

And the thirst for new ideas and skills is one of the signs of a youthful mind...
29 Mar 2021 12:53PM
Thank ypu both Pamela and John. Wise words from you both and probably if I was 10 years younger I might agree with you but I suspect that I may be quite a lot older than you both - who I would guess are about the age of my children! If not younger! But I will endeavour to take all your positive comments and try my best to put them in to practise. Very grateful to everyone for your comments.
chase Plus
15 2.1k 562 England
29 Mar 2021 1:43PM
I am late to this but better late than never.

Never, ever consider yourself too old to learn stuff...keeps the little grey cells active Smile

I have to agree with comments from the rest of the guys, the effect isn't doing this any favours and your original looks so much better.
Perhaps just a drop more exposure would have been in order as Willies' lovely modification has demonstrated.

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