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With restoration this church could again be beautiful but, of course, that takes money and/or a volunteer organization, great image.
Why not go for a perfectly natural presentation?
Is there any need for anything more complicated?
The ruined church is a strong focal point, the houses are colourful, the sky is strong, the aspect is good, and the only thing I'd like to have seen is a bit more of the sea. A little bit of a different angle would have been required.
So I have done a modification where I did the following:-
1. Straightened the image using the tower's middle line.
2. Cropped the right side to place the tower's centre on a thirds line (see Rule Of Thirds).
3. Brightened the image.
4. Slightly saturated the colours.
5. Sharpened.
6. Did a Levels adjustment.
Pamela.
Is there any need for anything more complicated?
The ruined church is a strong focal point, the houses are colourful, the sky is strong, the aspect is good, and the only thing I'd like to have seen is a bit more of the sea. A little bit of a different angle would have been required.
So I have done a modification where I did the following:-
1. Straightened the image using the tower's middle line.
2. Cropped the right side to place the tower's centre on a thirds line (see Rule Of Thirds).
3. Brightened the image.
4. Slightly saturated the colours.
5. Sharpened.
6. Did a Levels adjustment.
Pamela.
Iy's a perfectly good record (nothing wrong with that of course), and Pamela's small adjustments are all that's needed.
It shows the devastation of the church and the rest of the town appears to have recovered.
Perhaps you wanted more than record. The viewpoint is fine, though you could have experimented with different angles and focal lenghts if you'd had time.
I think the main issuye is that the light, while strong, isn't moody or exciting enough. When we're away we don't always have the kluxury of being able to capture scenes in our 'ideal' conditions.
So I think you've done ok here, though I'll try a couple of mods.
Keith
It shows the devastation of the church and the rest of the town appears to have recovered.
Perhaps you wanted more than record. The viewpoint is fine, though you could have experimented with different angles and focal lenghts if you'd had time.
I think the main issuye is that the light, while strong, isn't moody or exciting enough. When we're away we don't always have the kluxury of being able to capture scenes in our 'ideal' conditions.
So I think you've done ok here, though I'll try a couple of mods.
Keith
Thank you guys for the modifications and I really like No 2 & 4.
I did think to crop or clone in additional scenery. I have experimented with monochrome and tweek the times and colours.
Problem for me is I just can not get a feel on how to tweek it or modify to another look.
I did think to crop or clone in additional scenery. I have experimented with monochrome and tweek the times and colours.
Problem for me is I just can not get a feel on how to tweek it or modify to another look.
Quote:Sometimes, it's a sort of vanity to try to do more than record the scene faithfully....
You simply need to do the technical stuff well, and the job's done. Great light, right viewpoint - no need for more.
The original image is of course a snapshot in time of the actual scene. On this occasion my composition eye is blurry !
I think I stood on path watering to the towns fort so there was no other angle to get more of the sea in the frame. I suppose what was trying to achieve was more separation of the church from its surroundings to give a little punch to the image. I think it is the white buildings to the right of church that hinder that separation.
Thank you for your advice as I now look at the photo with different respective
Its an attractive scene, a place you would want to explore. The question then becomes - how to convey that in a flat rectangular? You were on relatively ground here which gives a really nice view of the rooftops below, that's a good start.
Can I suggest that you establish a clear workflow for processing, because the discipline of that will help to make some things clearer. I followed my workflow here. First I looked at the mechanics of the image - you were looking down, which will distort verticals on the church slightly. I skewed bottom left out a wee bit to compensate, making the left corner of the ruined section vertical.
Then the important element - light. The word photography means drawing with light - and it's always the key. Because of the bright sky, the camera underexposed very slightly on the foreground. I added 1/4 stop and also lightened on shadows a wee bit. Then a bit of very gentle dodging (3% on highlights) and burning (3% on shadows) on the foreground vegetation.
Working on light will sometimes give a different aspect to colours. So I leave any adjustments there until the next stage. I warmed colour very slightly, it gives more of a honey tone to the brickwork.
Then cropping. My first thought was - place the church more to the right, to frame the composition, act as a full stop. Have the church looking down on the scene, as we are. And I cropped on the left, to begin the composition at the point where the curved line of houses rises. That's Mod 5.
But do you actually need all of the church? I agree that the white buildings on the left are a distraction, so I cropped much tighter, to a neat square, a format that suggests self-contained order. That made the yellow roof a little bit higher in the frame, to the right of the tower, more prominent, so I toned that down. Mod 6.
What you need to decide, when taking the image and when processing it, is what the picture is actually about, what impression you want to convey to the viewer. So is this about the church? Or the church as a part of a much bigger picture?
Moira
Can I suggest that you establish a clear workflow for processing, because the discipline of that will help to make some things clearer. I followed my workflow here. First I looked at the mechanics of the image - you were looking down, which will distort verticals on the church slightly. I skewed bottom left out a wee bit to compensate, making the left corner of the ruined section vertical.
Then the important element - light. The word photography means drawing with light - and it's always the key. Because of the bright sky, the camera underexposed very slightly on the foreground. I added 1/4 stop and also lightened on shadows a wee bit. Then a bit of very gentle dodging (3% on highlights) and burning (3% on shadows) on the foreground vegetation.
Working on light will sometimes give a different aspect to colours. So I leave any adjustments there until the next stage. I warmed colour very slightly, it gives more of a honey tone to the brickwork.
Then cropping. My first thought was - place the church more to the right, to frame the composition, act as a full stop. Have the church looking down on the scene, as we are. And I cropped on the left, to begin the composition at the point where the curved line of houses rises. That's Mod 5.
But do you actually need all of the church? I agree that the white buildings on the left are a distraction, so I cropped much tighter, to a neat square, a format that suggests self-contained order. That made the yellow roof a little bit higher in the frame, to the right of the tower, more prominent, so I toned that down. Mod 6.
What you need to decide, when taking the image and when processing it, is what the picture is actually about, what impression you want to convey to the viewer. So is this about the church? Or the church as a part of a much bigger picture?
Moira
I tried increased height; cropped from the left, some right; significantly decreased contrast and saturation; used a warmer tone.
I found I was always looking down to the bottom left to the coast.
See what you think.
Its a good overall holiday shot.
Willie
I found I was always looking down to the bottom left to the coast.
See what you think.
Its a good overall holiday shot.
Willie
One of the best ways to get separation in a landscape is to wait for sun on the main subject, shadows elsewhere. With plenty of clouds in a blue sky, it is (usually) just a matter of waiting - and, of course, of understanding that this is an option. If the subject is great and hte viewpoint good, patience is the necessary addition.
Thanks guys for all the modifications and comments and will re tweek the original image a little and upload a modification soon.
Many thanks
Many thanks
