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By Philo  
One from another off-camera flash evening with McFade Training in an abandoned cinema. Ade invited 2 of his band mates along to be our models, this one being Sam and his saxaphone. Shot at the bottom of a stair case with a bare flash at the top.
Looking forward to your comments and mods.

Tags: Musician Saxaphone Portraits and people Flash and lighting Lyric Cinema

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banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4095 Canada
21 Apr 2012 4:59PM
It has an "edgy" look. I know the tilt contributes to it, but I think he looks better straight (not thats theres anything wrong with not being straight!). The position of the light doesnt do his eyes any favours imo, but I imagine the whole point of this exercise is to come up with shots that look different, and this works well with that intention.

Three mods, all straight. Mod1 just has skin and sax tone change. Other two are duo toned, - with 3 perhaps being the best of them. I did load the mod on the last pic with Photoshop instructions.


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Philo 9 99 83 England
21 Apr 2012 7:26PM
Thanks Willie, I agree it looks better straight, I think it needed to be more of an angle to work otherwise it looks like a mistake.
I do have photoshop but where possible I try to do everything in camera RAW, though I will try out your instructions. I have just discovered that I can do mono conversions and toning in ACR and that is how I did V2. I would appreciate your feedback on that but I will probably upload another toned shot tomorrow anyway.
Shooting with Ade is all about being creative, something I really lack, so yes it was meant to be different. Not everyone's cup of tea though!
banehawi Plus
15 2.2k 4095 Canada
21 Apr 2012 8:09PM
I like your V2, but I think duo toning is more subtle. Ade is creative for sure.


Philo 9 99 83 England
21 Apr 2012 9:57PM
Okay Willie, if I get a chance I may try a few different versions on the next upload.
puertouk 8 1.1k 17 United Kingdom
22 Apr 2012 12:20AM
The effect is way too severe. Try bouncing the flash or try a diffuser to soften the light a little more, which can make it moodier. Lighting is trial and error and you can take 50 shots with different types of lighting until you get a few that are right for that particular shot.
Philo 9 99 83 England
22 Apr 2012 7:17AM
Thanks Stephen, severe was the idea here but yes a diffuser may have worked better. Bounce flash didn't work though!
ade_mcfade 16 15.2k 216 England
22 Apr 2012 3:29PM
the lighting position here is "loop lighting" - you can tell by the shadow shape on his nose, it's probaby the most popular lighting position in use today.

it's got that edgy quality which bare lights give - used by Damian Lovegrove and many others, as has been said, it's not to everyone's taste - I'd be interested to see how the ones with the brolly looked - much difference?

Anyway - I'd probably darken his hands a bit as it's pretty bright and stands out against his dark jacket - you could also desaturate it a little too.

Maybe have a go at sharpening the bricks to add extra texture - the light being at the acute angle has helped lift the texture, so adding a bit more sharpness will add to the feel.

one tip, if you don't want any shadow on the face, tell the model to look at the light stand - then you can move around as much as you like, get your angle, and whatever happens, the face will be shadowless Smile you can soften the shadow here with a bit of dodging on the low tones - should bring out some skintones.

look forward to seeing more from the set Smile
Philo 9 99 83 England
22 Apr 2012 6:50PM
Cheers Ade, I will see if I can apply your ideas on some of the other shots. Now you have pointed out the hand it definitely is too bright.
Thanks again,

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