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By Andy1979  
Hi this is the problem i have? i have all great looking pictures but the background is really creased is there anything i can do so i can get rid of the creased background, i know in future i need to take a iron lol, but if anyone can help me with the problem i have i would be so happy, andy!!

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colmar 14 42 35 Scotland
15 Nov 2009 5:24PM
A common problem , I use the large grips and tack it to the stand out of sight of the shot, you can get them fairly cheaply on ebay etc the other alternate is of course to change it in PP... Colin
t_downes 13 279 United Kingdom
15 Nov 2009 5:27PM
you could invest in paper background on a roll.,,,Tony
Andy1979 15 755 2 England
15 Nov 2009 5:30PM
thanks for the posts, I love this background but it is so big it gets really creased when you fold up, is there a method of photo shoping the background to the correct look, for this time as i am now aware of this problem for next time?
baclark 12 3.7k 24 United Kingdom
15 Nov 2009 5:31PM
Would it help at all if the people were further away from the background, so it's out of focus? I don't tend to do portraits so what do I know?! Wink Just a thought though.
Andy1979 15 755 2 England
15 Nov 2009 5:36PM
The clips would work i think, its just i need a fix for now in photoshop as they are for someone at work for there mother for xmas of there granchildren,.
tepot 17 4.4k United Kingdom
15 Nov 2009 5:37PM
ngoodman 17 1
15 Nov 2009 5:45PM
You really need an iron or, preferably, a steamer. And roll it up rather than fold it when not in use (you might be able to pick up something to roll it on from a carpet shop for nothing). Then a wide aperture followed by some deft photoshop work.
Andy1979 15 755 2 England
15 Nov 2009 6:01PM
Okay to combat the problem in future i think what i am going to do is take colins advice and buy some clips as and also try to iron then roll on a carpet roll not sure if i have anywhere to store it though thats the only problem i have! but for now i does anyone know of any tutorials to help get the background sorted? thanks for all the help by the way andy!
banehawi Plus
17 2.6k 4274 Canada
15 Nov 2009 6:28PM
Hi Andy, - youve got a lot of learning possibilities in this shot.

Apart from the creased background, - the colour balance is way off, giving a distinct cold/blue tone.


Tips above re ironing, are good; you could purchase a background and stand. you could use a roll of white or other paper which would be crease less; you could buy some black velvet or the like. Black velvet makes a good background material, - and in fact some creasing might look good.

The fact is, that the subjects need to be further away from the background ideally, far enough to throw it out of focus.

Use an aperture of f/5.6 and get than as far away from the bg as possible, - or use one of the methods above.

The bigger problem however is white balance.

Try this:

Shoot in RAW. Place a grey card in the scene with your lights set and camera setting dialed in, then take a shot (The card is cheap to buy in any photo store, - and in this shot, one of the people would have held the card close to them in the frame; then remove the card and shoot away.

In RAW post processing, - FIRST select the shot with the greay card, and use the white balace tool in your software to click on the greay card. Take a not of the colour temperature it sets, and apply this to all of the subsequent shots taken in the same light conditions.

Ive loaded a mod with colour corrected, - and Ive used a lens blur filter on the background to give an idea of another post processing way to make the background look blurry.

I hope this is helpful.


Andy1979 15 755 2 England
15 Nov 2009 6:58PM
Hi willie thanks for the advice also, i shoot in raw plus fine jpg, i have used a cbl lens to correct the colour balance i think the problem comes from me changing it in photoshop also i was using a apature of f4 and some time my 70 - 200mm sigma to try and blur the background i had limited space so it was quite hard to get quite far away from the background, is it possible to fix the background on the images i have taken?
arhb 14 3.4k 68 United Kingdom
15 Nov 2009 6:59PM
This might help

The above link is a great selection tutorial, and for your image, I used a second technique, although I did it quite quickly.
I would err closer to F8, solong as you're not photographing too far away from the subject, and as long as your subject is 2metres away from the bg, the creasing won't notice.

Hope this helps.
Andy1979 15 755 2 England
15 Nov 2009 6:59PM
is it not possible for me to iron my backdrop and then take a picture of it and then cut the people out and put them on the new image?
andy210966 14 4 119 Wales
15 Nov 2009 7:18PM
Hi Andy

I too have put a Mod up as I think there is plenty of 'shot info' which should help for your next shoot. I think your initial ask was about how to fix the shots you have taken?? If you are using PS (any version) CTRL C to copy the image to a layer and select your subjects - this doesn't take very long. Invert the selection and apply a texture or a blur. I have used a Sum-e texture as I think some texture in the backround for this image is required when you are happy, tidy up the edges and flatten!. I also warmed the image up too!

MikeA 16 1.3k England
15 Nov 2009 7:50PM
Apply steam iron as in my mod, 20 second fix.

Use colour range option in photoshop on a layer, cut b.g. and colour fill. then merge layers.
Andy1979 15 755 2 England
15 Nov 2009 8:35PM
is there anyway you can make a selection from the blue and soften or blur that area only?
MikeA 16 1.3k England
16 Nov 2009 8:41AM
Yes instead of cutting the background and replacing it you can use the blur filter on the selection.

I will answer your pm later when I have more time.

banehawi Plus
17 2.6k 4274 Canada
16 Nov 2009 1:45PM
Andy, - as I mentioned in my feedback, I used a lens blur filter on the BG, - theres other good filter suggestions, especially from the other Andy,- you need to know how to perform the layer mask technique to do this, - theres lots of techniques on the site, and you can Google it also.

EddieAC 16 3.3k 2 United Kingdom
16 Nov 2009 9:31PM
I uploaded a version of your photo.

Tried to make it as natural looking as I could and hopefully the effect is something different.
Nickscape 15 708 9 England
17 Nov 2009 2:29PM
You could create a Path and cut around the people, then use the path as a layer mask and the background will become transparent

link - have a watch of this

once background is transparent you can then paint or fill it in whatever colour you choose..

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