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Skippool creek !

By Jas2
Early morning shot a few days back! Is it a good click to begin with? Comments on colours ie is the saturation correct? Is it oversaturated? How to understand this ? Also the colours are reflected in the creek and surrounding bank, is that natural? I have to say I have selected the foreground and did a colour adjustment to reduce the magenta cast somewhat!


Tags: Creek Landscape and travel

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banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4227 Canada
5 Apr 2021 7:16PM
Did you use a Tripod for this?

Jas2 3
5 Apr 2021 7:21PM

Quote:Did you use a Tripod for this?


Hi Willie
Yes I did use a tripod! Is it soft?
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4227 Canada
5 Apr 2021 7:31PM
Its a little soft, but not too bad. Make sure you use mirror lock up for a long exposure, as well as a remote release, or the self timer to make sure you avoid and vibration due to pressing the shutter.

I would worry about the magenta in the sky, theres quite a bit of magenta there at various times, so its to be expected.

Saturation look ok; I prefer the darker version.

I would prefer if that fence on the left wasnt there, its a bit messy, but since you cant move it, you can crop this if you like to a square format.

Ive done a mod like this, with some sharpening, and reduced exposure to get the sky exposed a bit better. I also wamed the white balance to daylight.


Robert51 12 7 121 United Kingdom
5 Apr 2021 9:00PM
What a super image with those wonderful colours.

The mod I didn't want to change too much so more about tidying up.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.7k 2395 United Kingdom
5 Apr 2021 9:23PM
I too prefer the darker version, partly because it plays down that blue strip on the vertical post. I like the post as a sort of 'anchor', but this to me eye does exemplify how landscape format can lose its way at the edges - the left and right sides of the frame really don't add anything, and on the left the edge is a bit untidy with that blip in the fence. I want things a bit more concentrated, concise, lines occupying the frame on their own terms.

A different crop to follow shortly.
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1832 England
5 Apr 2021 9:29PM
OK... For me, the one thing that I really want to change is the horizon. I think that almost all the 'verticals' are tilted the same way, but nonetheless, I reckon a quarter-degree rotation clockwise looks a little better.

I would probably have shot with daylight white balance, and gone with the colours that way: it's a dramatic time of day, the light was beautiful, and a pretty wide range of colours will be acceptable to viewers, although each may have preferences.

The reflections in the water and from the banks... Of course they're natural, and I love them (meaning: I wish I'd taken that!) Where you have a wet area of mud, or water, and the light source is at the same angle to them as the camera is, you get reflections: If this was a cobbled street, it would look better after rain than on a dry morning, because the reflections would be stronger. The reflections add texture and visual interest. Treasure them!

I'd possibly take down the overall exposure fractionally, rather than darken shadows... As the human eye adapts to see shadow detail when you focus on shadows, retaining just a hint of detail there is good - it looks more natural.

The cloud veiling the sun has helped contain the contrast range: a really clear day would have had less interesting light colour, and harsher light. You had everything right, and this would, I reckon, do exceedingly well in the main gallery.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.7k 2395 United Kingdom
5 Apr 2021 9:41PM
I've added two modifications using a different square crop to Willie's. Working on your darker version, I lightened shadows very slightly, then used skew to straighten the post on the left. I removed the traces of blue using the sponge and burn tools. Then a square crop.

This is a very man-made landscape. I added a b&w conversion intended to give a more industrial feel, worked in Nik Silver Efex. Added contrast, grain and vignetting. There's haloing on the left that I should have dealt with, but generally I like the effect. See what you think.

alfpics Plus
19 374 4 England
5 Apr 2021 10:16PM
I tend to agree with John (dudler)'s suggestions - horizon correction and tried a different white balance to remove some of the magenta - unless of course it really was there! Darkening the blue post helps as well.
Otherwise, really like it!
chase Plus
15 2.1k 562 England
6 Apr 2021 11:57AM
This looks like a great place for a few frames Jas, I do like the sweep of the water.
I did do a mod, slight rotation to put those masts upright.
Cropped off the fence on the left, I agree with Willie on that score, it is a little messy.
Added a drop of sharpening.
Just lifted the light hitting the rocks very slightly and reduced the magenta a bit more.
The colours were there at the time I guess so they are what they the golden reflection in the water.
dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 761 England
6 Apr 2021 2:13PM
The reflection of the colours in the damp areas looks fine.

Your darker version is nice but I do like the extra shadow detail in the main image, as John says the eye would see that detail, though I wouldn't do lighter as it would dilute the mood. So, either is acceptable, not roght or wromng, go with how you feel it should be as you were there. The same goes for saturation, you know how vibrant it was.

The thing with sunrises, an sunsets, is that colours can vary so much in intensity not just on different days but from minute to minute. What you want to avoid is something that looks unnatural or garish. That needs to be done by eye. The histogram is useful in that you can see the levels of the diffeent colour channels so if the red and yellow are bunched over to the right you wouldn't want to increase them any more. Clipping in those channels would indicate oversaturation even if overall there's no highlight clipping.

Magenta is easily overlooked as it's warm and blends well with the yellows, A little may be present but too much looks sickly. Sharpness looks fine on my Dell Ultrasharp monitor, but it's interesting how evn on a tripod 1/13 can be enough to pick up vibrations but at wider angles like you used here is less of an issue as it would be using for example a 100 mm macro lens for close-ups.

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