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Sleep (song)

By kuipje  
This picture was shot in Burgers Zoo, in Arnhem, in the east part of the Netherlands close to the German border. About 1 1/4 hrs drive from Reeuwijk. It's really a very nice zoo, not so many cages
(accidentally shot in JPEG instead of RAW)
As always advise/comments/mods/tips much appreciated

V2 is original V3 converted to WEB and sRGB

Title song "Sleep song" by Graham Nash

Tags: The netherlands Arnhem Pets and captive animals Burgers Zoo

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LynneJoyce Plus
8 20 99 United Kingdom
12 Jul 2014 8:17AM
A wonderful pose captured here. If this were mine (I wish) I would work on it to get more contrast and therefore crisper definition. When I get back on my computer I will have a go and post a mod.

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dudler Plus
13 465 883 England
12 Jul 2014 9:57AM
I've come to this straight from your last post. My comments are the same: I think that the sharpness would come from a slightly smaller aperture, so focus isn't an issue, and maybe a higher shutter speed. 1/100 at 250mm is a really big stretch, even with good IS.

I've done a mod burning in background highlights, and deepening blacks - this makes the image more satisfying to view, I hope!
12 Jul 2014 3:18PM
Thanks Lynne for your comment and you (and John, thanks too for your good mod) things could be better and darker. Next time better, I hope.
regards Bianca & Jos
pamelajean Plus
10 969 1834 United Kingdom
12 Jul 2014 7:55PM
Do you know what kind of animal this is?

I really like the sleeping pose and the way it is curled and nestled in the broken branch.
Although we all like eye contact, it's just not possible in this one.

There is a strong blue cast to your image, both on the animal and on the tree trunk.
Your Exif Data doesn't show what white balance setting you used.
I hope Willie won't mind me quoting him here: "The most typical failure of AWB we see everyday on the site is in bright daylight, or afternoon Sun. The camera logic detects a red/yellow bias (warm) and corrects it by applying blue and or cyan. So it will actually remove the colour bias thats supposed to be there. Its does this often, reliably and repeatedly. Its simply an unreliable set of software algorithms. So, dont trust AWB. Trust the time of day and the weather. The colour temperatures of those scenes can be reliably measured with very sophisticated equipment that simply measures what it is, and doesn’t try to change it. These are the temperatures that are set when the Sunny, Cloudy, Shade settings are used."
In the shade on a bright day the picture comes out way too blue or cool looking. A subject in the shade is slightly bluer than the same subject in bright daylight.

Another thing that I've been meaning to mention to you is that it's a good idea to assign the sRGB colour profile to your pictures.
If using Photoshop, assign the sRGB colour profile in Edit>Assign colour profile, and the drop down list has it near the top.
sRGB is the WEB standard colour space, so that means, when you upload an image to EPZ, or any place on the Web, you MUST make sure that sRGB is the colour profile used.
The reason you should do this is that all Web Browsers are not created equal, so some people will not see the colours in your image that you do.
Some web browsers will not accurately display the colours in your image when it has a profile other than sRGB.
At the time of writing, there is only one Browser that handles every possible colour management situation with a web image –including missing, or untagged images – and that is Firefox.

I have done a modification where I cropped, and simply removed the blue by selectively desaturating it. I then did a slight Levels adjustment and selectively sharpened the animal's face.
Did you remove something from the right side? There is a little loss of detail there, especially on the top of the tree trunk.
Also, I cannot see Version 2, which would have been helpful in this respect.

13 Jul 2014 1:42PM
Hello Pamela
Thanks for your commentssssssss.
First answer your question about the animal. It's a Binturong (offcial name)
Oke I (think too) know what you mean. I have tried to change it (but it's Dutch that's no a problem I know someWink ) but not sure if I did the correct thing. Will have a look in about 10 days when I take a account on Photoshop CC in English it's much more easier.
And you are (twice) correct I remove stuff and right again V2 wasn't there. Will upload.
Thanks for your effort
13 Jul 2014 1:44PM
Pamela (2)
V2 is confirm ( I think) your comment and also convert to Web
13 Jul 2014 1:52PM
V3 converted to WEB and sRGB
pamelajean Plus
10 969 1834 United Kingdom
16 Jul 2014 9:44PM
Thankyou for the other versions, it helps confirm my thoughts.
tonyguitar 4 55 32 Canada
7 Aug 2014 5:23PM
Interesting reading all the above and so true that shadows are often too blue on the web. I can only add that the animal may be a sloth and this is a very uncommon image. A pleasure to see the cropped version. TG

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