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Sod the rules...

By NDODS    
"Rules for me are there to be broken, well in photography anyway?"

This portrait landscape of showing a section of the Grain Peninsula clearly had broken all the rules as laid out in John Hedgecoes Advanved Photography, but who cares I like it, for me I believe that the format works. "Other learned photographers may disagree?"

Thank you for all your wonderful comments and messages following yesterdays upload 'Peiring In'. A further mention going to Growmore(Gary) and jdinnes(John) for their most welcomed and appreciated User Awards.

I hope that you all have a great day ahead, I am still somewhat shaky on my pegs, so I rather relaxed day is on the cards.

Highest regards to you all as always.


Tags: Light Port Factory Cranes Landscape and travel Isle of grain Exporting Importing

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I don't usually advocate breaking rules but in this case I think you are definitely right. Great image as always.


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widtink 5 406 2 Scotland
30 Jan 2013 8:10AM
Works for me Nathan rules should be bent,broken,smashed tae smithereens or just ignored my man so well doneGrin

AnnChown Plus
8 207 1 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 8:15AM
I know so little about landscape photography that I don't even know which rule(s) you've broken Nathan! Smile Great light!
franken Plus
15 4.6k 4 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 8:16AM
Works for me Nathan . I tend to ignore the rules! Smile

30 Jan 2013 8:20AM
This is superb, Nathan. Some landscapes can only work in portrait format, and your shot certainly does. Rules, after all, are only guide-lines, no-matter what some 'experts' may say!SmileSmileSmile

CarolG 11 199 20 Greece
30 Jan 2013 8:20AM
Rules are made to be broken, Nathan, and why not Wink It certainly has worked for you here, a fine image. Carol
30 Jan 2013 8:31AM
Great shot - bit worried about all the rule breakers on here tho - I hope you all stop at red lights Grin
fentiger Plus
16 918 24 England
30 Jan 2013 8:31AM
There should only be one rule ~ "there are no rules". Having said that I have to be honest and say Nathan that this image doesn't work for me ~ sorry!.

30 Jan 2013 8:32AM
A superb portrait landscape with a strong skySmile
nonur Plus
9 17 13 Turkey
30 Jan 2013 8:33AM
There is more than enough justification in this smashing photo for the breaking of the rule, Nathan. There's so many to praise here, so I'll rather say simply, this is SUPERB, and congratulate you.
morpheus1955 11 3 2 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 8:45AM
Superb shot Nathan, great composition and light, excellent fg detail. As you may well have noticed I tend to bend if not totally smash the rules at times Tongue My view is if you like it and it works then that's all that matters SmileSmile Also IMHO their are no experts as to what is right or wrong as far as photography is concerned, we are all artists, in our medium and like all artists some of our work will be appreciated and some not, it is all subjective (wow how did i manage to spell that right this early lol) Just my opinion of course Nathan , fabulous shot have a great day my friend


User_Removed 8 48 1 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 8:57AM
A superb image again Nathan, as for rule's who's rule's, we take photograph's for our satisfaction not for rule's of others.
Regards, Alf.
Lillian Plus
8 22 17 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 8:58AM
Well I think most are going to like this as well Nathan...that sky sets it all of so well
as already said, photographic rules are to be broken, or where would be be today from years ago?
and all what should be done according to earlier photographers
great shot
mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1918 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 8:59AM
This takes me into the scene and makes me want to step over that fence and look further, outside the frame. I've made my views on 'the rules' clear here before. Following them will produce a nice, satisfying cream-cake of a picture, absolutely safe, uncontroversial and leaving no questions unanswered. Breaking the rules can (it's not guaranteed) do much more, it can ask questions, startle, make the brain and imagination work, and that's much more important for me.
EAS 9 1 13 Scotland
30 Jan 2013 9:01AM
Progress in photography is only ever made by those who don't stick to the rules, surely? Otherwise it would be just the same old every time! Your image here works beautifully.

Hermanus 5 4 South Africa
30 Jan 2013 9:10AM
Fortunately I don't know any rules - I am in this for the enjoyment of it !! Was a perfectionist for far to long in my life Smile I think this image rocks Nathan !! Love the sunbeams and cranes on the horison contrasted with the foreground SmileGrinGrinGrinGrin
30 Jan 2013 9:37AM
Like Herman I don't know the rules - except the one of thirds which I ignore anyway! I love the way the picture moves to the back and what appears to be a seascape is suddenly something different. The rays are a great addition.Smile
woolybill1 Plus
11 23 72 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 9:39AM
I agree with you 100% about rules, Nathan!
(Yes, I am aware of some of them at least. I would have been in the Salon des RefusÚs with Manet and Whistler, in attitude at least GrinGrinGrin)
Gorgeous light!
fentiger Plus
16 918 24 England
30 Jan 2013 10:29AM
Yes Nathan No. 2 is, to my eye, a great improvement and gets the vote.

RonnieAG Plus
8 154 118 Scotland
30 Jan 2013 10:30AM
I go along with all your above respondants, Nathan: rules are guide lines only but your own vision and artistry must come into play, interpreting these rules as you feel necessary, smashing them completely at times.
If it works for you, that's the man thing.
And today's shot is a great portrayal of what you saw and how you saw it.
Jasper87 Plus
8 2.0k 150 England
30 Jan 2013 10:43AM
You become an anarchist all of a sudden, Nathan!! GrinGrinGrin As Ronnie says, they are only guidelines, and they do work in many cases, but if, by ignoring them, you achieve the result you are after, then you are the master of your photography. The brighter v2 for me.

30 Jan 2013 11:02AM
to hell with the rules Nathan you got the capture that you wanted and fine one it is as well the slighly brighter V2 works for me

Take it easy

lonely_oryx 10 61 55 England
30 Jan 2013 11:05AM
Very ominous landscape
Irishkate Plus
7 41 114 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 11:28AM
Looks like everybody has jumped the barrier into the scene beyond today!
You could crop this image several ways and end up with satisfactory images
but you given us the whole picture.
Prefer V2 with more light.
mossy 5 46 1 England
30 Jan 2013 11:29AM
As i dont know the rules, i would never know if id broken one. Grin Great looking area, a mix of natural and man made habitat. Works for me Nathan.

regards brian.
30 Jan 2013 11:35AM
Superb image Nathan
I would agree that the rules would not work on this one
30 Jan 2013 11:36AM
An inspiration shot Nathan.
Mrsbass 5 2 1 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 12:32PM
Two beautiful shots of which I can not choose a favourite, super colours and composition. I too take pictures to please myself - some work / some don't - yours definitely do!
bobsblues 8 10 2 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 12:35PM
A good philosophy Nathan rules made to be broken and this super shot just proves it.
Daisymaye Plus
9 23 16 Canada
30 Jan 2013 12:35PM
You just keep breaking those rules Nathan. This is a great shot and I love that sky......Sandy
jdinne 14 16 England
30 Jan 2013 1:03PM
If an image works what do rules matter and this Nathan is proof of the pudding. Love it oh and cant choose between.

Take it easy Nathan.

Tibetan 5 3 England
30 Jan 2013 1:07PM
You come on here Nathan, chuck all the rules out the flaming window and expect votes!, what do you think this is! a site for Vagabonds and charlatans people that think they can do what ever they like! lol. Well Nathan, I can tell you I'm with you all the flipping way lol. always been a rebel so be it, not bad photo's either, well done good for you, regards Leon.GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinWink
banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3866 Canada
30 Jan 2013 1:18PM
A nice scene Nathan. Its as close to thirds as makes very little difference though! Unless theres another rule being broken!

a well focused and well taken shot.I like it.

taggart Plus
13 47 13 United States
30 Jan 2013 2:14PM
V2 seems brighter--more appealing-- where ever this is, it is very descriptive and leaves the viewer thinking about more exploration-- a grand image!
achieverswales 7 8 101 Wales
30 Jan 2013 2:18PM
All been said Nathan, what part of this photograph would you remove to follow the rule of thirds, could you crop some of the sky with the fantastic light! No, would you crop from the bottom and loose the fence with those excellent tones! No, the rule of thirds is a guide to follow only, look at the old masters and you will see excellent examples of rule of thirds and stunning light, but they also broke these rules when it suited them, the light in V2 is awesome mate and my choice, I would hang this in my Mother in Laws house! It would suit her nature (Dark and Foreboding)


30 Jan 2013 2:57PM
This works for me Nathan. I prefer V2 for the light
ali63 Plus
6 775 1 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 3:39PM
I like this very much Nathan,
30 Jan 2013 3:40PM
Lovely Image

platzy 5 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 3:45PM
Love the light in V2, cool image Nathan who needs rules.
Rende 11 38 4 Netherlands
30 Jan 2013 4:12PM
Beautiful composition and wonderful light Nathan. I prefer the softer and more atmospheric V2.
keithh Plus
14 25.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
30 Jan 2013 4:24PM
I'm not sure which rules have been broken here but if anything it suffers from being rather drab and under-exposed.
luckybry 8 3 Scotland
30 Jan 2013 4:33PM
works for me Nathan that what they make rules for
SUE118 Plus
9 8 1 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 4:53PM
Break all the rules I say, Love both shots Nathan.
pluckyfilly 11 351 33 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 5:16PM
Love that stormy threatening sky and as I see it the fence is nicely positioned almost on the thirds anyway and what the heck I don't always follow the rules, unless its in front of the competition judgeWink
30 Jan 2013 5:17PM
This is superb
Beautiful composition
Meheecho 5 275 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 5:19PM
Superb images
User_Removed 5 4 1 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 5:29PM
Love it
HELANA 8 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 5:40PM
Grate light and well capture image Nathan,
Franko59 6 3 2 England
30 Jan 2013 5:44PM
I like it ! nice1,,,regards Ian
Fefe Plus
6 23 31 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 5:54PM
Na'then RobertWinkTongue
Beautifully broken rulesGrinGrin

KateSad............ or Betty if you likeWink
30 Jan 2013 6:21PM
Brilliant, V2 for me Nathan.

John Smile
30 Jan 2013 6:27PM
V2 has the slight edge for me - but both are beautifully moody and atmospheric.

Yes sod it who needs them anyway Nathan lol, v2 my fav lovely colour and so well composed.

danbrann Plus
13 637 17
30 Jan 2013 7:12PM
Of the two I prefer V2 Nathan.
meniko 6 Cyprus
30 Jan 2013 7:14PM
V2 for me Nathan
prefer the stronger colours
and the smooth light
netta1234 6 382 2 Wales
30 Jan 2013 8:30PM
A beautiful set that I like verry much.And Nathen I dont know the Rules I must be braking them every day in my images as I've never been told what they are.
jasonrwl Plus
8 1.1k 10 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 9:06PM
Excellent shot Nathan - v2 for me
RockArea 11 18 3 United Kingdom
30 Jan 2013 10:34PM
I like rules, they keep things tidy! For goodness sake, Nathan, get back in line and stop being creative!

30 Jan 2013 10:49PM
Rules? What rules, Nathan?TongueTongueTongueTongueTongue Love the light!Smile
xwang 8 56 8
30 Jan 2013 10:51PM
I prefer V2,it seemed brighter.. I can't see wellGrin
Yes, sod the rules.
Your persistence has turned out a beautiful shot but it is best not to overdo things as V2
shows this. You guessed it V2 is my choice. Well done. WesternRed.
Chinga Plus
7 3 1 United Kingdom
31 Jan 2013 6:31AM
Love the image... Wouldn't even beguin to guess what rules have been broken here!
Well seen and well done! IB
RuthyJ 11 England
31 Jan 2013 6:28PM
And thats what you get for breaking rules!!! Two great shots. Love them Nathan.
evelen 13 5 England
31 Jan 2013 6:29PM
two excellent shots .
LexEquine 11 19 United States
31 Jan 2013 8:48PM
'Superlative scenic Photography!' ~ LEx Wink
RobinF 11 83 1 England
1 Feb 2013 5:12PM
V2 is particularly awesome as far as I am concerned Nathan, I don't do 'rules', I just do what I want. Sometimes my stuff sells sometimes it doesn't. But the only way I know how to do photography, is to do what I like. so 'bleahh' to rules an' stuff (he said maturely).

kind regards,

Jocelia 6 2 1 Australia
3 Feb 2013 7:02AM
V2 for me Nathan I love what it has done, good on ya..

3 Feb 2013 11:30AM
Great Shot and Great Mood

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