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Solstice Fire

By Dennis_Bromage
I headed to Ashness Gate on Derwent Water on the evening of the solstice as I knew it faced right into the setting sun. I wasn't disappointed either as it was a beautiful sunset, a fitting end to the longest day Smile

I'll include a screen grab of the RAW file in Capture One so you can see exactly how much (or little) processing I've done and also the camera setting and what grads I used. I'm going to do this on all future uploads as I think it's time someone demonstrated to the beginners on the site that with a little perseverance it is possible to get images right in camera, without the need for lots of post processing.

Thanks for taking the time to look and LARGE might be worth a little peak if you got this far Smile
Den

Tags: Landscape and travel

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LeighRebecca 9 267 10 England
28 Jun 2010 5:42PM
A very beautiful image Dennis. I'm not sure a real beginner would be able to entirely interpret your V2, but it's a good idea I'm sure. (I have to say in the screen grab of capture one the image seems to have slightly more punch than V1)

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tmann 11 4 2 United States
28 Jun 2010 5:46PM
This is just superb!
Love the color and lighting!
Agree with Leighrebecca about more punch in the CO image (V2).
Thomas
sut68 Plus
13 2.0k 76 England
28 Jun 2010 5:49PM
V2's a nice idea Den, I'm sure it'll make sense to newcomers when they start practicing with it.

Nice image too, worth the effort.

Paul
Ian-Munro 9 200 15 Wales
28 Jun 2010 5:49PM
Its a superb image thats very pleasing to the eye Den. I know you don't overcook ya stuff and this is a prime example of your skills.

I for one will look forward to seeing these before/after jobby's and I am also keen to know how you find capture one.

Very appealing and sellable if I may say so.

Ian
colin63 8 6 England
28 Jun 2010 5:54PM
Superb image Dennis, I can imagine this being printed a good few times.

Good idea with V2

Colin
Dennis_Bromage 9 45 20 United Kingdom
28 Jun 2010 6:03PM
Thanks guys. V2 does certainly look more saturated. Strange as the only thing I did once I exported from Capture One was dust bust in Photoshop. I think it's probably a combination of the smaller size and the 'print for screen' grab screwing around with the colour profile. You get the idea anyway Smile

If you're a beginner and it doesn't make sense and you are interested please feel free to ask me questions Smile

Den
Dennis_Bromage 9 45 20 United Kingdom
28 Jun 2010 6:07PM
Thanks Ian/Colin. I'll try a print tomorrow but interestingly in my experience prints like this don't sell that well as most people want something a bit more relaxing hanging on the wall Smile
gary_d 8 576 13 Wales
28 Jun 2010 6:10PM
A great peaceful image Dennis, I use Adobe's raw converter but I am sure its much the same. - gary
Mynett 8 142 6 United Kingdom
28 Jun 2010 6:14PM
very nice and so good to see the process too it will be a big help to us beginners

Linda
phil99 10 45 6 United Kingdom
28 Jun 2010 6:48PM
A super image Dennis .Wonderful composition and excellent tones and light. Can't really comment on ver2 as I haven't enough experience ....Phil
28 Jun 2010 7:12PM
Superb image, and the second grab is a superb idea. I am not familiar with Capture One, I tend to use adobe camera raw, which comes as standard in CS4 etc. (I'm very sure you knew that) Do you feel capture one processes better...Anyway off for a run, see you about.
Jerry
martinl 13 266 2 United Kingdom
28 Jun 2010 7:18PM
Super capture Den, and good on you for doing the V2.
Smile
Dennis_Bromage 9 45 20 United Kingdom
28 Jun 2010 7:23PM

Quote:Superb image, and the second grab is a superb idea. I am not familiar with Capture One, I tend to use adobe camera raw, which comes as standard in CS4 etc. (I'm very sure you knew that) Do you feel capture one processes better


Hi Jerry. I don't want to sound like an advert for Capture One and the only reason I showed it in V2 is that it's what I use. Having said that I do prefer it to Lightroom or Adobe Camera RAW. The main reason is that you have proper levels & curves controls which are what I use to do 90% of my adjustments and it's nice to do these bigger (relatively speaking) adjustments at the RAW stage rather than later in Photoshop.

If you use Lightroom or Adobe Camera RAW you can get an almost identical result by adding the 5% saturation and slight highlight recovery in these programs then either do the curves tweak in Photoshop afterwards or play with the contrast and vibrancy slides to get a similar result at the RAW stage.
martin.w 14 446 22 United Kingdom
28 Jun 2010 7:28PM
I nearly went here after taking the boats, but felt I already had enough cliches for the night Wink

As one who does most of the work in camera (most of my stuff takes about 3 mins to process) glad to see the same approach. A great idea for the screen grab for helping beginners too Smile
Paintman Plus
10 1.2k 177 United Kingdom
28 Jun 2010 8:23PM
A lovely shot and a great idea to add the screen grab.

Alan.
Daisymaye Plus
8 23 10 Canada
28 Jun 2010 8:55PM
Beautiful and this should be helpful, thank you.......Sandy
wyatturp 11 2 England
28 Jun 2010 9:06PM
Its good you have taken the time , well done there's always things to learn.nice detail in the board walk

DougSmile
cassiecat 8 39 46 England
28 Jun 2010 9:22PM
a great idea and help with v2, just wish i could afford a reverse grad.
v1 is a cracker.lesley
28 Jun 2010 9:28PM
Cheers for the info Den.
Jerry
Dennis_Bromage 9 45 20 United Kingdom
28 Jun 2010 9:52PM

Quote:A great idea and help with v2, just wish i could afford a reverse grad.
v1 is a cracker.lesley



Hi Tech make them now. Can't vouch for how good they are but they are a fraction of the price and from what I've seen from people on my workshops their standard grads don't look to bad. Smile
Lorn 7 United Kingdom
28 Jun 2010 10:12PM
love this Den, the tones and colours in those clouds are very relaxing, I think it would make a good saleable shot too


Lorn
1 Jul 2010 11:09AM
This is very nice Den, the clouds lead very nicely to that fantastic sunset.

Hope you don't mind me adding some advice here Den,
One idea if people don't have a reverse grad is to use a second grad from the bottom to overlap the top grad slightly, you will need to increase the exposure for the foreground, however the overlap will still help to deal with the brightness.

Eli
1 Jul 2010 10:06PM
Tranquil image Den, like the way you've kept the posts in the light area of the water.
Dennis_Bromage 9 45 20 United Kingdom
2 Jul 2010 11:03AM

Quote:Hope you don't mind me adding some advice here Den,
One idea if people don't have a reverse grad is to use a second grad from the bottom to overlap the top grad slightly, you will need to increase the exposure for the foreground, however the overlap will still help to deal with the brightness



Thanks Eli. Good point, you could do that using a 1 stop hard grad and is some cases it can work well but here because I'm already using 2 filters it would mean adding a 3rd which is quite a lot and it's also getting very complicated.

I only used the reverse grad because I have one. If I didn't I'd have used 2 standard hard grads and lived with the top of the sky being a touch darker.

For reference Hi-Tech now make Reverse Grads so there is an alternative to the silly Singh Ray prices. I don't have any Hi-Tech filters myself but from what I've seen from clients on my workshops they seem okay. They show a slight colour cast at the higher strengths or if you stack say a 3 stop ND and 2 stop grad but if you used their 2 stop reverse grad on its own or stacked with Lee filters I don't think you would see too many problems. The Singh Ray's aren't perfect anyway and certainly aren't as good as Lee's so the Hi-Tech's have got to be worth a go???
2 Jul 2010 12:05PM

Quote:Quote:Thanks Eli. Good point, you could do that using a 1 stop hard grad and is some cases it can work well but here because I'm already using 2 filters it would mean adding a 3rd which is quite a lot and it's also getting very complicated.



The advice wasn't aimed at you Den, as you quite rightly point out a 3rd filter in your case would not work for various reasons, ( good to point out though). It was more in response to Lesley, as another option to test.
The Hi-tech filter does look like a good affordable option, I have used their grads with very good results.

Eli

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