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Space to reflect

By tom_earwaker
Another older one, trying to go for a calm, spacious atmosphere (although I took it out the window of a busy train...!).

Thanks to all of you who have been giving me feedback on my photos, I appreciate the time it takes to look at them and make modifications. I know I've put quite a lot up for critique recently, so if you're sick of looking at them I will completely understand if you don't comment! I just prefer to get more honest criticism/advice as it helps me improve.

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paulbroad 14 131 1293 United Kingdom
28 Jan 2017 8:10AM
A nice scene and reflection but a bit flat and washy. It may be mist, but would prefer a bit more contrast as the greys are all a bit similar in tone. Not sure mono is the best choice for this.

dudler Plus
18 1.7k 1879 England
28 Jan 2017 11:51AM
The softness is part of the calm: my mod used a Nik conversion, and added a narrow black border to hold things in. I'm not at all sure it's better, except that I think more panoramic is an improvement.

As Moira said on your last upload, there were some dustbunnies on yoru sensor - the conversion I used emphasised them.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 3.0k 2462 United Kingdom
28 Jan 2017 1:35PM
Like your Kenilworth Castle upload, I think this is a case where the quality of haze that we enjoy in real life - the softening of form, the lack of a sense of distance sometimes - does not translate easily into a small rectangle on a flat screen. The b&w is a bit Fifty Shades of Grey... It needs greater clarity, as provided in John's modification. I might have a go at a conversion job...

Don't assume that a perfectly processed colour image will convert automatically to perfect b&w, by the way. We need to start back at the beginning, think out the image from scratch.

Just one further thought here - the water was very nearly mirror-smooth. Know what I'd love to do here? Wait for a fish to jump, and watch the ripples spread until they cut the reflection into jagged diagonals. Or throw a pebble as far as I could into the water, if I was too impatient to wait for the fish...

Don't worry about posting in the CG if you are learning from it! That's what it's here for - and we hope that other people learn by looking in. It does help when people tell us how they see their work, mention their queries, let us know if they need help on particular points.
pamelajean Plus
15 1.6k 2238 United Kingdom
28 Jan 2017 2:21PM
I really appreciate what you say in your Description Box about uploading to the CG, Tom, but, as Moira says it's not a problem, as long as you find you are learning something from it.

I feel that the problem with mist or fog is that it needs something in the foreground to show its recession, otherwise an image can just look washed out. YOU know it's mist, but nobody else will.
Objects and features closer to your lens will tend to show heavier tones than elements that are further away, and this is what you want, so bear this in mind when composing your shot. Also, those objects close to you will have plenty of colour and appear sharp, which contrasts well against the vanishing vista behind, and provides a sense of depth.

You do have some nice detail in the centre, the water's edge, where there are trees and buildings. That's good, but it's quite a way away, and not easily recognised. It's not dominant enough to provide the viewer's eye with a clear and focused area that suggests mist in the background.

Mist does lower contrast, but can equally create a soft, romantic feel to an image.
Sometimes the mist just lies in the folds of the land, so the rest of your image can be sharp, but that's not the case here.

I think this needs what little colour it has, and so have used your colour original for my modification. I cropped away the dark mountain on the right because it just kept drawing my eye. This way, I think your dark row of trees stands more chance of becoming an important feature against the mist.
I made some contrast adjustments and made the blacks blacker.
I cloned out the white building that sits on the left frame edge as it's another eye puller.

banehawi Plus
17 2.5k 4272 Canada
28 Jan 2017 2:40PM
Its a ncie original scene. Your mono has a nice wide range of tone, its well done

The original colour can do with a bit more depth in the centre, - due to the existing light.

I would like to see it as a 16 X 9 format, and I used the colour to crop like this, and upload a mod of the colour, which I think is nice, and also a duo-tone version that might work.



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