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St Mary's Quayside

By NDODS    
Good Morning to you all.

Firstly thank you all so very much for the wonderful comments and votes following my Sully Sunday upload.

Today's image was captured only a few days ago whilst out and about with Julie and Kizmet. It was captured on St Mary's Island, and shows an old slip with the the crack and tracks still prominent in the concrete slope. The power station in the distance is Kingsnorth which is on the Isle of Grain.

The image is made up from five separate exposures then processed in Photoshop CS5 as a HDR image.

Well I hope that you all gave a wonderful day ahead, I am off the hospital for some physiotherapy, and from then on who knows.

Regards as always

Nathan GrinGrinGrin

Tags: Sailing Power station St marys island River medway Landscape and travel

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ColleenA Plus
5 358 6 Australia
12 Aug 2013 7:12AM
An excellent image with good leading it....well captured Nathan...hope Kizmet stayed off the wine yesterday

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Hermanus 5 4 South Africa
12 Aug 2013 7:12AM
A really lovely photo this Nathan !! very well taken !
Nigeve1 Plus
5 1.4k 101 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 7:24AM
Great image, Nathan. I like the central composition and excellent sky.
Canonshots 7 165 13 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 7:26AM
Once again it is difficult to offer a constructive critique when there is nothing to criticise. It is a very pleasing image as it stands and I simply cannot suggest any way to improve it.
mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1918 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 7:28AM
Something that I love here - an image which at first sight is symmetrical but in fact is anything but - I can have fun spotting all the little breaks. The rails align perfectly with the bottom two corners but the rack is at a slight angle... The embankments balance, the railings differ; the boat is central, the industrial complex behind isn't. Very clever and very satisfying. Perfect symmetry is is sterile and static, imperfect symmetry has tensions and life.
12 Aug 2013 7:36AM
There is so much to look at and see in this image, Nathan!
The slipway draws you into the so many delightful aspects of this wonderful photograph!
Hope things go well today,
abeeror2 5 23 Australia
12 Aug 2013 7:41AM
The tide is out in your wonderful image, but she will turn and you will be fine soon.
wnbeat 12 56 Scotland
12 Aug 2013 7:42AM
Nice pic Nathan the moody sky sits well with the industry in the background Smile
netta1234 6 382 2 Wales
12 Aug 2013 7:49AM
This is an Excellent image NathenSmile
Ted447 Plus
5 213 1 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 7:49AM
Great image Nathan very moody and well framed.TedGrinGrin
ugly Plus
10 9 57 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 7:54AM
Very nice image.
It looks like a bad light day and you done well..

User_Removed 13 386 2 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 7:54AM
senn Plus
6 5 1 Belgium
12 Aug 2013 7:56AM
well spotted and captured Nathan, .. exiting image
SlowSong Plus
9 7.3k 30 England
12 Aug 2013 8:02AM
So much to see here. Beautifully detailed foreground.
12 Aug 2013 8:13AM
A superb image.
12 Aug 2013 8:18AM
Super image Nathan, love the foreground detail,
12 Aug 2013 8:43AM
I love this one Nathan.
Very well composed Nathan, good processing well presented, I like the way the eye is taken into the shot, lots to see, good tones and textures.
cats_123 Plus
14 4.8k 28 Northern Ireland
12 Aug 2013 9:03AM
very artistic GrinGrin
12 Aug 2013 9:11AM
Excellent image in all the ways Nathan. Composition, colour and capture!
morpheus1955 11 3 2 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 9:13AM

Quote:There is so much to look at and see in this image, Nathan!
The slipway draws you into the so many delightful aspects of this wonderful photograph!
Hope things go well today

I couldn't put it better myself Smile

12 Aug 2013 9:14AM
I like this a lot. It has the colours I like; plenty to look at and I was 'led' round the image to see everything.
RonnieAG Plus
8 154 118 Scotland
12 Aug 2013 9:18AM
The slipway provides an excellent lower farming as well as lead in to the scene.
sable 9 9 7 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 9:25AM
A really nice image - great subject well captured and processed xx
paulbroad 10 123 1238 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 9:33AM
A good ijage, and once more, lots of good comments. Please, you lot, comment on images that need help too!

I do find the tonal range slightly HDR, here, a bit compressed. I wonder why. No one else has commented on that feature but the tines are different to what I would have expected.

widtink 5 406 2 Scotland
12 Aug 2013 10:05AM
Great image Nathan , Pauls point is valid though esp in the sky SmileSmile

iancrowson Plus
8 211 146 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 10:12AM
This is the Critique Gallery. Did you mean to post this for critique?
It would be very difficult to add constructive critique after all your friends positive comments.
12 Aug 2013 10:12AM
Excitin indeed as Senn wrote. Very well done Nathan!
nonur Plus
9 17 13 Turkey
12 Aug 2013 10:13AM
An amazing shot, so many details, things to notice, wonderful sky and all. Formal but a very pleasing compo.
Irishkate Plus
7 41 114 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 10:36AM
Wonderful f/g detail and that sky sets the scene so well.
Moira's comments are interesting and helpful in analyising a busy
scene such as this.
12 Aug 2013 10:59AM
This is a beautiful capture Nathan. I love that sky, very moody GrinGrin

boov 5 2 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 11:09AM
12 Aug 2013 11:55AM
The central track, yacht and chimney lead the viewer straight up into the moody sky. Love it Nathan.
Central compositions can work as you've shown here.

rontear Plus
15 8 8 England
12 Aug 2013 12:03PM
Very good POV Nathan.
S_Psharma 5 1 India
12 Aug 2013 12:11PM
Excellent landscape nicely captured.
martin.w 16 518 22 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 12:18PM
First of all, this photo is neither amazing, superb, excellent or least to me.

I will explain. First the good points.....the exposure is good and I do like rack as a lead in.....maybe something to return to in better lighting conditions and moving in much closer to it.

The lighting is pretty flat, but the composition is messy. As said a good lead in, but there are two subjects that compete with each other, the boat and the power station and then there are parts of boats on both sides of the slip way which again catch the eye. The sky looks as though it belongs to a completely different photo and dominates the image over the rest of the scene.

To me this looks like a record shot that has had photoshop thrown at it in attempt to improve it....and to me it hasn't. Harsh I know, but it is only my view and clearly I am in a minority Wink
a very beautiful shot,first class.

mikbee 11 3 8 Scotland
12 Aug 2013 12:30PM
I have seen a lot of slipways Nathan,
but the first one here with the tracking on it !!
Quite a rare find indeed.
Nikonuser1 Plus
5 151 16 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 1:21PM
Excellent Nathan, great lead in, like the way your eye is guided to the yaght then the power station by the slip waySmile

franken Plus
15 4.6k 4 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 1:27PM
A well composed and excellent image here Nathan.

taggart Plus
13 47 13 United States
12 Aug 2013 1:27PM
An interesting view-- I think I would have made it a square including just the bottom , the sky seems to be an additional image which might could stand on its own! a curious track to my eyes????
paulbroad 10 123 1238 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 1:54PM
I am actually beginning to think this section is pointless.

12 Aug 2013 2:04PM
I enjoy this very interesting photo. It reminds me of an illustration of the old books about England, about navigators and explorers ... Excellent, Nathan!Smile
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Regards Valery
12 Aug 2013 2:29PM
I very much like the composition here Nathan

AnnChown Plus
8 207 1 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 2:30PM
The composition is amazing Nathan - I think Moira summed it up (as usual) for me!! Smile Your processing is the icing on the cake.
iancrowson Plus
8 211 146 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 2:40PM
Quote from instructions for Critique Gallery

"All photos in the Critique Gallery have been posted by members who would appreciate constructive comments. The Critique Gallery is a learning zone. Do not post "nice picture" or similar comments which amount to no more than compliments. Familiarise yourself with the correct method for offering critique"
iancrowson Plus
8 211 146 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 3:16PM
A rather grim looking scene. This may have been intended given the controversial nature of the power station.
In my view an OK photo with a reasonable composition although I feel the positioning of the boat is wrong.
Settings and focus look good.
The attempt at symmetry does not really work because its not clear where the slipway is intended to lead the eye to. Bits of other boats distract the eye on route to whatever the subject matter might be. The boat and power station compete for attention.
As regards the HDR and processing, a pretty good example of misuse. The sky is un natural and over bearing, looking at the various clouds it just does not work.
HDR is meant to expand the dynamic range rather than the gloomy flattening effect in this image.
I think there is a good picture waiting. Wait for the boat to be moved and visit in the evening with a good natural sky and some nice warm light lower in the sky to add some relief and details to the image.

Note. I have made this critique as Nathan asked me to do so by personal message.

12 Aug 2013 3:50PM
Excellent composition Nathan !
ChiliMan 11 135 17 Singapore
12 Aug 2013 3:50PM
Hmmm. I've just read all the comments and have re-read all the ones which've touched on finer points. At the end of the day it's sorta hard to provide constructive critique 'cos the critiquer (me, in this instance) may not know what the creator was going for.

The HDRing of the sky, for example. I like it. It reminds me of an old painting of a lusty sky. Here it looks like a VERY angry sky about to pick on that poor little boat. The rampy bit in the foreground, especially where it opens up to the sea like calipers, sorta frames or 'presents' the boat. Beautiful detail in the foreground too, especially the track.

I'm afraid I can't give any constructive advice other than this would look, to me, better if it was slightly brighter.

I like this, Nathan. For me, it's all about those clouds and that boat. All the other distracting bits which were mentioned I didn't even notice 'cos my view was drawn to what was, to me, the main two subjects.

But we all have different eyes Wink

A beautiful image Nathan, well done!

Charlie x
TrevBatWCC Plus
9 12 12 England
12 Aug 2013 4:01PM
Nicely framed and good viewpoint, Nathan, with the slipway leading the eye in Smile Great processing too! Wink
Trev Smile
lovely capture Nathan and well presented

Brian65 8 2 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 5:50PM
Wonderful image, great work Nathan.
AnnJ Plus
6 5 Scotland
12 Aug 2013 5:57PM
What a beautiful tranquil scene, great composition and fine processing. Ann.
12 Aug 2013 5:57PM
Excellent image/work, Nathan.

12 Aug 2013 6:11PM
Excellent piece of Work Nathan, great processing and subject matter, well done.

John Smile
EileenH 4 1 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 6:22PM
Great image, love the clouds Smile

Lillian Plus
8 22 17 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 7:15PM
What a lot of different thoughts here Nathan,
for me I have no advice as rather like thisSmile
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richmowil Plus
9 335 2 England
12 Aug 2013 8:08PM
Great composition with a very dramtic sky!! Excellent processing - Fine image!!
myrab 11 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 8:17PM
Oh dear Nathan,

Just want to say I like it.

jaktis 14 84 Sweden
12 Aug 2013 8:23PM
Lovely textures and a great composition

Nick_w Plus
10 4.3k 99 England
12 Aug 2013 8:33PM
There are a lot of comments here, some good, some ok and some unhelpful.

The idea behind the composition is fine, but it doesn't quite work. The eye is drawn from the central runner, to the boat and straight to the power station, whoosh, I the out.

I like the use of the lead, but the main problem is the position of the boat.

I'm lost why you need to HDR, HDR is designed to combine images with a dynamic range outside a single RAW, I would be very surprised if this couldn't be combined in one image. Often in HDR you les vibrancy, introduce halos and noise, although with care this needn't be the case.

What I think you we're trying to do is increase detail, hence the HDR, or should I say tone mapping.

It's an almost image (in terms of composition) just consider all the elements, don't just think lead in, or thirds etc, but look and think to yourself "isit harmonious?" If the answers yes you will invariably find its a good composition.
xleex 6 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 8:34PM
Nice HDR image like to see some more.
pluckyfilly 11 351 33 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 8:47PM

Quote:I am actually beginning to think this section is pointless.


not sure I understand this comment but I quite like the picture myself my only comment would be if possible to have waited for the boat to arrive off centre but I like the lead in and the sky - actually I am lost for words having read all of the above and that's unusual for me - don't lose heart Nathan
ali63 Plus
6 775 1 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 9:18PM
I like the image Nathan,everyone has different opinions, it's a good job we are not all the same how boring would that be Wink

Ali SmileSmile
Phantom7 12 29 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2013 10:30PM
Not bad
12 Aug 2013 10:42PM
Nathan I have read all the comments and still not sure. Cathy
Chant57 Plus
12 395 3 United Kingdom
13 Aug 2013 9:38AM
I think this location is worth another visit when conditions are better. Landscape work is predominantly about the light, in this image I find the light rather flat, which could be a result of the tone mapping. The sky , whilst looking full of drama to some viewers, to me just looks overworked and unnatural. Plus points are it is a sharp image and is in focus, but compositionally, whilst the slipway provides a good lead in, the mast of the boat " gets lost" in the power station structures in the background. Secondly the parts of boats showing beyond the slipway , distract the eye and generally leave me thinking " untidy" .
Critique is very subjective Nathan , and one mans food is another mans poison.
For me , it's a location full of promise , and one that could provide a much better image in the right lighting/ weather conditions .
pamelajean Plus
12 1.1k 2007 United Kingdom
13 Aug 2013 5:28PM
I, too, am wondering if you meant to place this image into the Critique Gallery, Nathan.
I fully understand some of the comments above because you always receive lots of votes and comments, which is wonderful for you, Nathan, but you will see that several of your fans have just not recognised that this image has been put forward for critique, and some are even perplexed about the negative comments included above, which are simply responding to the purpose of this particular gallery.
To be honest, I looked at this yesterday and was getting frustrated by the "nice pic" comments, because, as Ian points out, there are clear instructions for giving critique, and these guidelines are being ignored. I think the problem is that members will go to their "favourites", click on the latest image, and just go ahead and comment as per usual. However, if the image had been accessed through the Critique Gallery itself, the instructions are there. Images put up for critique are also displayed in the Photography Gallery, with CM beneath them. People are not recognising the difference.
I have nothing to add to the above in the way of critique.
dudler Plus
14 690 1321 England
13 Aug 2013 6:40PM
Loads of comments, and so varied that one could call it a Marmite shot...

I like the not-quite-symmetry. There's an interesting exercise in composition going on in there.

The HDR is another matter: it does look a bit muddy. A bit more contrast in places would make it work for me...
Source 7
13 Aug 2013 11:34PM
An amazing scene.Wonderfully composed and great dramatic clouds
Chinga Plus
7 3 1 United Kingdom
14 Aug 2013 1:09AM
I love that sky, and the full content in view with the low tide.
It's an interesting shot Nathan...inviting you to go down to the waters edge and see more...
My compliments, IB

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