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Stag at Knole House

By darranl    
A stag taken at Knole House in Sevenoaks, Kent.

Tags: Stag Deer Wildlife and nature

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PatriciaWilson 14 615 58 Greece
30 Mar 2011 9:32AM
Nice capture with good in camera composition and great back light.
I feel perhaps it need to 'pop' a little and have the distracting bits cloned out of the background.
I've done a mod:
Auto levels. Then boosted the colour in channel mixer, up red 24 down blue and green 12... and the same with the green and the blue. lifted the centre of the curves a little. Cloned out the distracting bits and dodged the fur a little. Smart sharpened 60-1.3.

Hope that helps,

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darranl 8 318 England
30 Mar 2011 10:16AM
Thank you Patricia, yes I definately do tend to miss cleaning up things in the background Wink

I am currently using Lightroom not PhotoShop so some of the options I have available are a little different so just adding a modification of my own with some of your suggestions.
banehawi Plus
13 1.8k 3879 Canada
30 Mar 2011 5:31PM
Your mod is good Darran, - better than the original.

Lightroom has all of the abilities to do what Patricia has suggested, except the terminology is different, but you can do all of the same adjustments. Its better in LR2 if you have that.

I have added some space to the left, - which I do believe you need an editor other than LR for, and croppe a little from the bottom, - the only difference to Patricias mod.

I had LR for near a year, and used it very little before I realized all of its capabilities, to its worth looking into Adobes online tutorials on LR (free), and now I use it for most of my workflow except for some more complicated work that PS is needed for.


PatriciaWilson 14 615 58 Greece
30 Mar 2011 6:07PM
yes it's much better, Darren. I don't know lightroom, but I believe Willie's suggestion that it has the same 'doings'.
When you edit I think, after straitening, levels and curves are the most important adjustments and should always be done before boosting the colour or sharpening or any other messing about.

Don't get disheartened by the crit and the difficulties. The technicalities can be learned (I'm still trying to grasp some of them) but a good eye, which you obviously have, can't be learned, it's a gift that you can explore and develop and go on to produce really great work.

Good luck, and enjoy!
darranl 8 318 England
30 Mar 2011 7:43PM
Thanks again both of your for your comments.

Quote:Don't get disheartened by the crit and the difficulties.

Don't worry I have no plans on getting disheartened I know from many members on here their images have improved from the comments they have received - what would dishearten me would be if in a few months time I am still making the same mistakes pointed out before Wink

Willie - regarding the additional space to the left I do have some additional space in the original so could crop differently, I suppose a second habit I need to get out of is only cropping for print as I am using the ratios I commonly get printed - in Lightroom I have found the virtual copies feature is really good for exploring different crops without filling my disk up with many duplicates.
Jestertheclown 9 7.7k 252 England
30 Mar 2011 9:45PM
I like this darrenl!

I think all the critting's already been critted so I won't add to it.

As for Lightroom, it's really not that user friendly and you're not the first or only person to find it's quite a learning curve. I've had Lightroom 3, now updated to 3.2 since it came out and I'm still having to treat everything I do as a bit of an experiment.
Stick with it though as it does become easier and some of the tools are excellent. I've started to use it for sharpening and noise reduction in preference to Photoshop as it allows much finer adjustment but it's taken a lot of practice to get to that position.

Good luck,

gmansfield 10 1 1 England
31 Mar 2011 10:55AM
I think the original is too flat and needs more contrast. I like the back lighting. I have uploaded a mod where I have really pushed the contrast using my process action. I might have been a bit heavy on the sharpening front though.

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