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CarolG Plus
9 193 18 Greece
5 Dec 2012 2:51PM
I'm inclined to agree with your thoughts, Ann, maybe a tad lower with the pov would improve the image, but nevertheless a fine entry for a competition, good luck Smile Carol

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AnnChown Plus
6 198 1 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 2:52PM

Quote:I'm inclined to agree with your thoughts, Ann, maybe a tad lower with the pov would improve the image, but nevertheless a fine entry for a competition, good luck Smile Carol

Thanks Carol - I thought so... Smile
woolybill1 Plus
9 19 66 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 3:10PM
I am really not adept at commenting on images of food, particularly items that I like, since my immediate response is that of Pavlov's dogs (though I also look back to my last meal rather than merely forward to the next . . . . ).
I do love garlic, but there will be none in tonight's dinner because we are going out to a meeting afterwards: my enjoyment of this photograph will thus be purely vicarious Sad
Well, yes, I suppose a lower pov would be a good idea, and a crisp b&w would suit my palate too Wink

Regards
Bill
franken Plus
13 3.8k 4 Wales
5 Dec 2012 3:18PM
Slightly lower would improve it in my opinion Ann.

One thing I found when I was a member of a camera club is that all judges are different of their opinions on still life images. (and most other things really)

I remember one of mine being marked down by a judge in the monthly comp. I used the same image in the yearly and a different judge made it the winner!

Best wishes,

Ken
AnnChown Plus
6 198 1 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 3:20PM

Quote:

I remember one of mine being marked down by a judge in the monthly comp. I used the same image in the yearly and a different judge made it the winner!

Best wishes,

Ken


Yes, I've had similar experiences Ken! Smile
mugshotmyk 4 3 9 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 3:25PM
A very good effort indeed. Well done.
Hermanus 3 4 South Africa
5 Dec 2012 3:27PM
Unfortunately I cannot give you tecnical advice Smile BUT I like this image a lot and think it is stunning SmileGrin
AnneWorner 8 620 43 United States
5 Dec 2012 3:36PM
Nice elegant shot. I agree a slightly lower pov would work. Another thing we learned in class, was that sometimes a light misting of water can make things look fresher. Maybe not for garlic though.

Anne
lonely_oryx 8 61 54 England
5 Dec 2012 3:42PM
The lighting is excellent
Good lighting plenty of detail it all depends on who has he/hers likes, if you like it then that's all what matters.
AnnChown Plus
6 198 1 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 3:51PM
Thanks for the tip Anne!
5 Dec 2012 4:22PM
personally I am \not unhappy with the pov. I think sometimes you should do something different. I think it works here. The only thing that i find distracting is the sharp change in the background from the floor (?) to the backdrop. Otherwise it would get my vote.. ....Peter
achieverswales 5 8 101 Wales
5 Dec 2012 4:25PM
Hi Ann.
A few things spring to mind, first off the background is not pure black, you can see an image in the background, I had this with Ronnie a few days ago! It showed up on my screen and Ade's screen but not on others, so it depends on the quality of the projector being used if this will show, second is still life works better in odd numbers 1-3-5 and so on, the point of view depends on getting all the reflections included, this has been done, the colours are good, There is some dead space so a crop would work to make a tighter composition, the lighting and textures are good, my mark for this would be 15. hope this helps.


Regards

Trev.
AnnChown Plus
6 198 1 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 4:42PM
Thanks Trev and Peter for your input. I can't see the change in the reflective surface to the background at all on my screen, so thank you for pointing it out. Your screen must be calibrated properly - and mine not. Something to work on....
Ann
5 Dec 2012 4:44PM
Sorry Anne voted then i got a phone call and forgot i had not commented. Like Trevor i can see a reflection or image in the background also, i think the pov for me is ok think maybe it would suit a square crop. The colour is good and very natural looking and the lighting is spot on

GrahamGrinGrinGrin
mrswoolybill Plus
9 877 1431 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 4:55PM
I like the angle. You have the bulb stem heading diagonally up, the detached clove pointing down. I'm seeing a mother whose toddler is lying face-down on the pavement throwing a tantrum.
Re the white dot (I can actually see half a dozen) - b***** artefacts, where an imperceptible dot in the original gets blown up and brightened in the compression of pixels. I check compressed files over methodically and still miss the blighters...
Moira
5 Dec 2012 4:56PM
I've just crushed some cloves for my winter stew tonight.................I can smell the garlic from here.........lovely still life and very well presented............GrinGrinGrinGrinGrin
fentiger Plus
14 916 23 England
5 Dec 2012 4:58PM
A simple but very attractive still life study.

Albert
Niknut Plus
6 1.2k 68 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 5:04PM
Lovely shot !!!.....well lit & beautifully crisp !!!

I suspect that a crop from both sides, to an upright format, might produce a slightly stronger image ??

I might be inclined to 'stretch' the 'reflection' downwards a bit too, & tweek it's contrast ??

I gave up with camera-club judges a long time ago !!.....same experiences as Ken, & yourself !!....inconsistency rules ??.Grin
Irishkate Plus
5 33 94 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 5:07PM
Basically this looks a very pleasing composition.
Like Trev says three is a good number.
I wouldn't count the reflection in the cloves on left but a judge might.
I too can see several specks to left of cloves on left and some reflections along the top.
So the black b/g does need perfecting. Zoom it up to 100% and you'll probably see them.
Most people are saying crop a bit of bottom. That didn't occur to me but do a copy and judge for yourself.
I like the colour.
You'll want more than 15 so ggod to get all the opinions here first!
Good luck.
KateGrinGrinGrin
pamelajean Plus
10 951 1799 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 5:16PM
Nice subject, Ann, and I like the way the single clove's tip touches the surface so that the reflection meets it.
I am sorry to say that I see several white dots above the single clove, and patches of grey at the top of the frame, like ghosts. These can easily be remedied by blackening the top of the background.
Quite often, when selecting a background with the Magic Wand, I have found that the wand discovers unwanted bits in the background, and so I zoom in and blacken them out, then try again, until the wand doesn't find them any more.
Good luck in the competition.
AnnChown Plus
6 198 1 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 5:25PM
Thanks everybody for your helpful comments and excellent eye sight! I think I need to recalibrate my monitor as I can't see anything. Back to the drawing board! SmileSmile
Nice image with lot of details. fantastic. deep
mrswoolybill Plus
9 877 1431 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 5:43PM
Looking slightly down on the screen, rather than up, I can see Pamela's grey patch, plus a difference between two areas in the background. I know my monitor is calibrated slightly lighter than some here - including Pete's, judging by one or two things that he has missed!
Something that I do if I remember, to check a black background, is to view the image with Shadows lightened by 25% - you don't save the change of course, but it will show up imperfections and you just have to remember where they are and correct them when you have cancelled the lightening!
carper123 Plus
4 887 8 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 5:47PM
A fabulous still life, luv your composition, well thought out, the background choice is spot on and i luv the mirror rflection, and a very sharp image.
Nice one,
Darryl. SmileSmileSmile x
Fefe Plus
4 23 31 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 5:50PM
I have read the comments with interest, some cracking comments.
I have polished my reading glasses several times and I can just see the not quite black bg and a few specs, apart from the one above the single clove, I can see some in the reflection area of the lower right hand corner.
Having said that........ I do like the image, lovely colours and detail, and what have you used to get the black bg? I like itGrin......................and now I have said all that .................. I have absolutely no idea whatsoever how judges workWink
Diane
AnnChown Plus
6 198 1 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 6:07PM
The base of the image is a black tray and the background some black velvet. I need to get it sorted so that the transition is smooth between the two. Thanks everybody! Smile
Ann
morpheus1955 9 3 2 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 6:08PM
Super image Ann, great textures and colours, love the reflections too

Hugh
Fefe Plus
4 23 31 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 6:14PM

Quote:The base of the image is a black tray and the background some black velvet. I need to get it sorted so that the transition is smooth between the two. Thanks everybody! Smile
Ann


Thankyou for the answerGrinGrin
5 Dec 2012 6:20PM
So glad to make this 30 Ann, a really well thought out and taken piece of Work. Can't have too much Garlic in my Pasta's etc TongueSmile

P.S. My award is because I'm looking at what I'm SUPPOSED to be looking at Wink

John Smile
rontear Plus
13 8 7 England
5 Dec 2012 6:26PM
Detailed enough to keep them away Anne ( Vampires Wink)
Ron.
banehawi Plus
11 1.3k 3399 Canada
5 Dec 2012 6:28PM
Ann, loaded a mod with brightness cranked up so you can see the problems people are talking about. AS Moira has mention above, you can do this yourself to identify missed areas, and then paint in with black. Then turn off the brightness layer and flatten image.


Regards


Willie
NDODS Plus
5 4.9k 125 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 6:47PM
Good luck, my fingers are crossed Ann

Regards NathanGrinGrinGrin
Lillian Plus
6 21 17 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 6:58PM
Ann, you certainly have some great advice that some of us will also be usingGrin
Yes, I can see the background colours on my screen..but
by golly that is one very sharp and colourful garlic sitting
waiting to flavour a meal...or two.
Lillian
Maiwand Plus
9 3 71 England
5 Dec 2012 7:13PM
Taking advantage of all the useful hints you should do well with this Ann.
Ron
PaulLiley 6 2 13 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 7:43PM
The clove on the left is so important to the composition as is the reflections. Great detail and well put together. paul
marktc Plus
5 85 14 United Kingdom
5 Dec 2012 7:44PM
I really like this Ann, can't see what all the fuss is about and I have an iPad with. Retina display!
taggart Plus
11 46 12 United States
5 Dec 2012 9:19PM
Like this lots, a most inspiring image!
Richsr Plus
9 90 220 England
6 Dec 2012 10:58AM
A good still life and some good feedback too
Regards Richard
Judges will spot the slightest mistake or missed mark Ann, Archie gives good advice here, even numbers don't work as well even a piece of the garlic skin might work here, I do like the pink peeping through that papery skin.
If you move the image down the screen so that the top of the image is down near the bottom of your screen you should see the problem with the black background more clearly.

It's a nice image but needs the extra care that judges look for...always.

Dougie
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CaroleS Plus
5 412 3 United Kingdom
6 Dec 2012 12:31PM
Good texture and colour tones in the Garlic Ann and I do like the pov.
Just a tweak with that background needed, I too can see the patches, but it is one easily sortedSmile
Lots of good advice given.

Carole
nonur Plus
7 15 9 Turkey
6 Dec 2012 8:23PM
It's brilliant!
6 Dec 2012 8:51PM
Excellent image Ann good luck..Lin
debu 6 India
6 Dec 2012 11:45PM
Excellently presented.
debu
Hop-A-Long 9 52 England
7 Dec 2012 12:30AM
Nice lighting and subtle reflection.
The background is a little uneven having looked at my screen at a different angle. Adding to Moira's advice, if you use Photoshop open a new layer and lighten that layer, you can then select the layer below the lightened one in the list to work on. Once finished just delete the lightened layer.
For my backgrounds I use velvet as it gives an even finish, as long as you make sure it is flat.

Andy
jasonrwl Plus
6 1.1k 10 United Kingdom
7 Dec 2012 5:55AM
It's all been said Ann - I like the natural lighting - works well. Moira and Willie's comments and mod are really helpful IMO.
Jason
7 Dec 2012 3:49PM
Garlic always looks attractive and often does well in club photography. I like it's dynamism! Good luck, hope you get a judge who can see the image from the right perspective.
Maggie
7 Dec 2012 4:57PM
love this!
danbrann Plus
11 576 16
7 Dec 2012 5:49PM
It isn't perfect Ann but I wouldn't worry ....most judges are blind anyway.
p12owe 3 101 2 United Kingdom
7 Dec 2012 6:14PM
I was amused by the discussion of judges.... I think we can all concur with some of the sentiments here!

For what it's worth, I think the composition is really nice, I quite like the higher pov and it shows off the single clove perfectly.

you will have to let us know what you score!

Peter
derekhansen Plus
7 210 24 United Kingdom
9 Dec 2012 7:19PM
Well you have had lots of solid advice Ann. My opinion for what it is worth is as follows.
1. Lower pov would work better.
2. Compositions tend to work better in odd numbers.
3. How about trying it with more negative space to the left? or with just a few small pieces of skin leading leading across to the clove,/bulbs.

Good luck in the competition.
Derek
AnnChown Plus
6 198 1 United Kingdom
9 Dec 2012 8:41PM

Quote:Well you have had lots of solid advice Ann. My opinion for what it is worth is as follows.
1. Lower pov would work better.
2. Compositions tend to work better in odd numbers.
3. How about trying it with more negative space to the left? or with just a few small pieces of skin leading leading across to the clove,/bulbs.

Good luck in the competition.
Derek


Thanks for your input Derek! It's work in progress and I'll certainly take your comments into consideration. Smile
Misty56 8 22 1 United Kingdom
10 Dec 2012 9:24AM
A super shot, but have to agree with the black not being black, different screens see different, to me you have done a good job as black is not the easiest thing to take
Tibetan 3 3 England
10 Dec 2012 9:57AM
Like this Ann, and a super reflection, worked very nicely, regards Leon.GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin
Paintman Plus
9 1.1k 176 United Kingdom
21 Dec 2012 6:39PM
Better late than never with modSmile

I can see the b/g in the original and felt it didn't add to the photo. I also thought the composition needed changing as the view point is slightly high.

At the moment the composition reads across rather than front to back, which I think would improve this photo. With these points in mind I chose to create a black layer and extend the canvas so there is more space to work with. I lowered the opacity of the black layer so the b/g layer showed through. This allowed me to paint an accurate mask for the garlic and its reflection.

I then selected the single clove and pressed Ctrl J to duplicate the selected clove. This was then moved to a different position to improve the composition in terms of achieving greater depth to the photo.

The black was quite uniform so I made a new layer and used a reflected gradient going from a shadow colour on the garlic to black. I then darkened the edges to make the gradient look like a pool of light. To allow the garlic and reflections to show through, I used a mask and paint brush. A small dose of sharpening was applied to crisp up the detail.

Alan.

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