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adrian_w Plus
10 3.7k 4 England
8 Nov 2010 9:10AM
Love teh misty effect. I think both versions work requally.

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Richsr 11 91 223 England
8 Nov 2010 9:14AM
Interesting to see the two version Paul, and lovely light and tones too. Think the crop works the best.
Regards Richard
sut68 14 2.0k 76 England
8 Nov 2010 9:16AM
Thanks guys, I agree with you Richard.

Right, time to get back to it, catch up later folks Smile

8 Nov 2010 9:19AM
Excellent both versions. I do think V2 gives more of a sense of isolation which I like.
Tip top reflection v1.
DaveU 12 1.4k 125 England
8 Nov 2010 9:26AM
Good looking shot Paul ... I prefer V2 for that extra sense of space.
Scaramanga Plus
10 56 6 United Kingdom
8 Nov 2010 9:36AM
V2 for me too, glad to have seen it large.
moiral 8 12 Scotland
8 Nov 2010 9:38AM
Beautiful shot, like them both equally. Moira
richardwheel 12 217 2 England
8 Nov 2010 10:09AM
There goes my post for today! Wink

Like the wider view though, especially those trees on the RHS. I didn't get it quite so W/A.
sut68 14 2.0k 76 England
8 Nov 2010 10:15AM
Thanks all for dropping by, means a lot guys ... and to that generous person [you know who you are] a huge thanks indeed, you really shouldn't have, but ta all the same!!! Smile

Rich - nice to get my own back then Tongue
JohnParminter 11 1.3k 14 England
8 Nov 2010 10:30AM
nicely condensed in this format Paul, bit lost and vague in the full size.
Buffalo_Tom 11 2.3k 9 Wales
8 Nov 2010 11:14AM
Crop works perfectly.Excellent light.
GHGraham 8 7 10 Scotland
8 Nov 2010 11:16AM
Composition is very good especially in cropped version but in an attempt to grab the shadows, a lot of high key detail has been given up which is a shame cos I would like to have seen the two boats more clearly and possibly some texture in the mist.

The trees are in shadow cos I know this place at this time of year is a huge contrast challenge which suggests shooting it BEFORE the sun rises might have reduced the dynamic range sufficient for the camera to capture it all.

Digital cameras have perhaps 2 to 2.5 stops of dynamic range above the mid tone (will record white cloud & retain some detail) and 3 - 4 stops of dynamic range below the midtone (record some shadow detail before going black).

Forget what the manufaturer says cos they are all telling stories.

This scene has at least 5 to 6 stops of dynamic range which is beyond your camera sensor if you set the shadows about 1 - 2 stops below mid tone which is what appears to be the case here.

I hope you had some more bracketed shots cos you could make a perfect scene here and give up some shadow detail without losing any impact.

These types of shots resonate with me which is why I spent so much time writing this.


RobboB Plus
11 132 United Kingdom
8 Nov 2010 11:37AM
This is like a Chinese landscape painting in my view. Wonderful. Pleased to make it an RC
cassiecat 9 39 46 England
8 Nov 2010 11:56AM
i like the less squoshed feel of v2.lesley
franken Plus
15 4.6k 4 United Kingdom
8 Nov 2010 12:25PM
Both versions work for me.

barbarahirst 9 27 12 United Kingdom
8 Nov 2010 12:31PM
Lovely image
Think V1 gets the click today ... classy !!!
richardwheel 12 217 2 England
8 Nov 2010 12:33PM

Quote:Rich - nice to get my own back then

ha ha, touche! Wink
LesF 11 182 9
8 Nov 2010 12:43PM
Looks neat, V1 and as Barbara says, classy

sut68 14 2.0k 76 England
8 Nov 2010 1:04PM
Thanks all for your time, particularly Graham for his considered thoughts.

I did get plenty of shots before the sun rose Graham [one or two may get an outing]. However, I altered my position - away from the Crannog - once the sun was catching the tops of the mountains. The more high key feel to the shot was intentional and it's what I'm happy with. I did have two grads on here [for the sky and one inverted for the loch] and they just kept enough detail [for me] to give me what I was looking for.

As for the boats, again I'm quite happy with how they came out myself, but can also see your point.

Thanks all,
Blundez 11 3
8 Nov 2010 1:05PM
Stunning image - its not often I get stopped in my tracks with an image. This is very atmospheric and conveys a lovely sense of serentity. I definately go with the crop - to me it adds to the composition and focuses the eye more.

Great work

fraser 14 631 14 Scotland
8 Nov 2010 1:06PM
I love the pano version and really like the high-key exposure.
8 Nov 2010 1:56PM
the latterbox crop of v1 works better to me
Regards Charles
artcubis 10 6 United States
8 Nov 2010 2:43PM
Beautiful dreamy landscape.
V1 is an artistic wide landscape crop to accent the horizon.
V2 is a box crop that gives more prominence to the water.

Silverzone 10 2 England
8 Nov 2010 2:46PM
Just simply beautiful. Sylvia
bfgstew 11 668 105 England
8 Nov 2010 4:05PM
Love this Paul, the lack of colour doesn't detract from a quality image, perfect composition and camera work.
rontear Plus
15 8 8 England
8 Nov 2010 4:23PM
High key exposure is excellent Paul, wonder of nature. Ron.
sut68 14 2.0k 76 England
8 Nov 2010 5:15PM
Big thanks all and sorry for the lateness in responding, been a little manic this afternoon.

Cheers for your time on this one folks Smile


PS: Once again, many thanks whoever you are ... I would thank you via PM if I knew who you were Smile
martinl 14 269 2 United Kingdom
8 Nov 2010 6:51PM
V1 for me, and love those boats in the mist.
sut68 14 2.0k 76 England
8 Nov 2010 7:00PM
Me too mate, cheers Smile
Morgs 9 20 62 Wales
9 Nov 2010 8:54AM
V1 for me. The crop is perfect.

sut68 14 2.0k 76 England
9 Nov 2010 1:14PM
Thanks Dave Smile
Nigel_95 Plus
12 262 2 United Kingdom
9 Nov 2010 2:42PM
Lovely light and colours on the upper slopes Paul. I would prefer a slightly less cropped version of V1 giving more space above and below the tree, and allowing the slope to reach the right and not the top.

sut68 14 2.0k 76 England
9 Nov 2010 6:22PM
Cheers Nigel, point taken Smile

javam 13 1.1k 19 United Kingdom
9 Nov 2010 11:34PM
Crop version for me too. I think the exposure works well and the details in the tress looks spot on. I would tend to agree with Nigel on the clipping of the top of the slope although I think the space above and below the trees is fine.

Shows the changing conditions well too when you compare this with some others taken on this morning. Cool blues and no sign of the crannog to golden sun on the peaks in about 15 minutes wasn't it?
sut68 14 2.0k 76 England
10 Nov 2010 8:51AM
Certainly was mate, but I suspected the conditions would change quickly with it being so clear. Point taken about the crop.
Scott_Scot 13 4 4 Scotland
10 Nov 2010 8:05PM
Oooh, ooohh, ooooh, oooooooooohhh, quite like V1 ! Smile

sut68 14 2.0k 76 England
11 Nov 2010 8:56AM
Nice one mate, cheers Smile
Goggz 11 2.3k 72 Wales
15 Nov 2010 6:02PM
Both good in their different ways Smile
Cheers, Goggz
sut68 14 2.0k 76 England
15 Nov 2010 7:31PM
Thanks Pete, appreciate it Smile

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