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where's the tie and the belt??? 
I like your portraits. Your male model performed wel. I prefer the more casual poses, most of all V4!
As I have two sons with autistic spectrum disorder, that's why I realise that posing is not the easiest task trying to act natural for them...
When the skin tones are not as natural as I want, then I personaly opt for a B&W conversion. But I find the tones of your portraits are quit allright, not bad at all.
Cheers, Guy
As I have two sons with autistic spectrum disorder, that's why I realise that posing is not the easiest task trying to act natural for them...
When the skin tones are not as natural as I want, then I personaly opt for a B&W conversion. But I find the tones of your portraits are quit allright, not bad at all.
Cheers, Guy
Great portrait images Tish
I also prefer the more casual poses of V4 & 5
I also prefer the more casual poses of V4 & 5
V5 for me.
A great set Tish
Cliff
Cliff
A great set of portraits, Tish - reminds me of Gary Kemp of Spandau Ballet...
I'm sure he'd love these
Trev
I'm sure he'd love these
Trev
V1 and V5 for me are the best of the set, nothing to do with ref, just the pose, and the likelihood youve captured some of his personality.
Assuming its the main image that shows the problems you worked with?
Since it contains white, - the shirt, getting white balance reasonably correct is not hard when you use the collar of his shirt that not overexposed.
This suggests very strong magenta and blue casts, with magenta being the worst of the two. best to do this in raw as you know.
This get the colour casts identified and you can correct the overall image first.
Then a closer look at his skin helps refine the corrections. The initial correction suggested too much yellow to counter the blue, so thats backed off to get the face balanced as per the Varis method. To me the result is that he appears to have a red toned skin, as you described.
Two mods are the result. His suit looks a lot more grey that blue in the mods, and that one way to know if youre on the right track, since you were there.
I will take a look at some of the others, but how does this look to you?
Regards
Willie
Assuming its the main image that shows the problems you worked with?
Since it contains white, - the shirt, getting white balance reasonably correct is not hard when you use the collar of his shirt that not overexposed.
This suggests very strong magenta and blue casts, with magenta being the worst of the two. best to do this in raw as you know.
This get the colour casts identified and you can correct the overall image first.
Then a closer look at his skin helps refine the corrections. The initial correction suggested too much yellow to counter the blue, so thats backed off to get the face balanced as per the Varis method. To me the result is that he appears to have a red toned skin, as you described.
Two mods are the result. His suit looks a lot more grey that blue in the mods, and that one way to know if youre on the right track, since you were there.
I will take a look at some of the others, but how does this look to you?
Regards
Willie
You're currently the Featured Plus Member Photo with this, Tish!
Trev
Trev
V5 for me as the stronest most interesting composition. Willie covers the colour cast issue and I wonder how you calibrated the manual white Balance? You have elements of over exposure on all of them, some more than others. You must expose for the highlights, then lighten shadows later as necessary.
There seems to be an issue with sharpness too. F11 should cover depth of field, but 1/200 might result in some double iaging if you had fairly bright ambient light and no tripod? You should use a tripod in the studio, even with flash.
Paul
There seems to be an issue with sharpness too. F11 should cover depth of field, but 1/200 might result in some double iaging if you had fairly bright ambient light and no tripod? You should use a tripod in the studio, even with flash.
Paul
The images of him in the suit do suffer from a strong blue/magenta bias, and the informal shots have a yellow cast.
I appreciate what you said about correcting for the skin. However, I don't see a big issue here, and in any case you can do local adjustments in Lightroom or Photoshop for example on just the facial areas, rather than a global adjustment.
The lighting is constant so you shouldn't need to adjust the colour on each shot. If you have a grey card, take the first photo of the session with that in frame and use it to set the colour balance for that session.
There are some very bright areas on these images, and looking at the exif suggests that the lights were very close and/or turned up too high. If you can reduce their output you'd avoid burn out. You may be able to reduce the highlight areas when converting the RAW files, though it's best to get the contrast range under control at the taking stage.
You may well need a small fill light or at least a reflector to lighten the shadows too.
Having said all that, the sidelighting works well with the subject. V1 is fine, after colour correction.
And V4 is a really nice shot.
I appreciate what you said about correcting for the skin. However, I don't see a big issue here, and in any case you can do local adjustments in Lightroom or Photoshop for example on just the facial areas, rather than a global adjustment.
The lighting is constant so you shouldn't need to adjust the colour on each shot. If you have a grey card, take the first photo of the session with that in frame and use it to set the colour balance for that session.
There are some very bright areas on these images, and looking at the exif suggests that the lights were very close and/or turned up too high. If you can reduce their output you'd avoid burn out. You may be able to reduce the highlight areas when converting the RAW files, though it's best to get the contrast range under control at the taking stage.
You may well need a small fill light or at least a reflector to lighten the shadows too.
Having said all that, the sidelighting works well with the subject. V1 is fine, after colour correction.
And V4 is a really nice shot.
V5 is my favourite, as it goes.
Monochrome avoids skin colour problems, of course.
All the colour shots look slightly off-key to me, and the technical stuff above explains this. I'm inclined to say 'don't overcorrect things that others haven't said are problems' - we often see faults that aren't faults in our own work.
The only downside for me, colour apart, is that the light from the left seems a fraction stronger than I'd like it to be. It draws attention rather than simply pointing up character (aka 'texture' - at least it is on my face...)
A good set.
Monochrome avoids skin colour problems, of course.
All the colour shots look slightly off-key to me, and the technical stuff above explains this. I'm inclined to say 'don't overcorrect things that others haven't said are problems' - we often see faults that aren't faults in our own work.
The only downside for me, colour apart, is that the light from the left seems a fraction stronger than I'd like it to be. It draws attention rather than simply pointing up character (aka 'texture' - at least it is on my face...)
A good set.
Colour casts aside, and physically moving your lights further away from the subject, I'm wondering how (if?) you modify your lighting, Tish? Do you use softboxes on the heads? If so, do you have a honeycomb grid for them? Grids are a great way of limiting the spill of the light from a box and allowing you to get much more directional lighting.
Combined with a lower output, that might solve the highlight issue? (Of course, if you use one already then just ignore me!).
Of the image set above, though, I think Version 1 (the mono) is lovely, although a little soft. The other one I really do like is V4 - it's quite a quirky pose and shows character. That little glint of light in the left hand eye (as I'm looking at it) is just lovely. He's got a real twinkle to his eyes and a wonderfully impish grin that's infectious
You should 'do' men more often!!
Combined with a lower output, that might solve the highlight issue? (Of course, if you use one already then just ignore me!).
Of the image set above, though, I think Version 1 (the mono) is lovely, although a little soft. The other one I really do like is V4 - it's quite a quirky pose and shows character. That little glint of light in the left hand eye (as I'm looking at it) is just lovely. He's got a real twinkle to his eyes and a wonderfully impish grin that's infectious
You should 'do' men more often!!
Quote:Colour casts aside, and physically moving your lights further away from the subject, I'm wondering how (if?) you modify your lighting, Tish? Do you use softboxes on the heads? If so, do you have a honeycomb grid for them? Grids are a great way of limiting the spill of the light from a box and allowing you to get much more directional lighting.
Combined with a lower output, that might solve the highlight issue? (Of course, if you use one already then just ignore me!).
Of the image set above, though, I think Version 1 (the mono) is lovely, although a little soft. The other one I really do like is V4 - it's quite a quirky pose and shows character. That little glint of light in the left hand eye (as I'm looking at it) is just lovely. He's got a real twinkle to his eyes and a wonderfully impish grin that's infectious
You should 'do' men more often!!
For all the years I have known him I have never known what his attraction to women is, but I have heard people say about his boyish charms and the fact that he needs Mothering, but impish, I think you've hit there Tanya, does bugger all for me, besides I'm too tall for him, but he makes a great drinking partner
Tish
Well done Tish..Lin
