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The Gainsborough.

By Richard_137
This was a Straight out of Camera Shot from before Covid-19 Lockdown, the Theme/ Moodboard was in the style of Thomas Gainsborough. The Model was Superb (I fail to remember her name unfortunately).
It was shot with my trusty Nikon D810.
Thank you for looking,
Tomorrow will be a challenging bug being posted.

Tags: Painting Beauty Female portrait Gainsborough Redhead Rouge Portraits and people Sooc themed shoot Moodboard Strawberry blonde

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clevercloggs Plus
16 251 15 Netherlands
26 Feb 2021 7:28AM
you've asked this image to be critiqued.
To be honest i find little to remark upon, except may be for the lack of showing the hands which I assume would be placed in her lap.
it is my impression that the model does not seem fully relaxed.
on the other hand I would say that the dress and makeup and also her facial structure would fit in a timeframe (late 1800's??) you have captured. I do wonder whether the overall space around the model is a bit generous, as she seems a bit lost in it.
But as a whole it is a good period portrait and you can see that a lot of effort was put into both the set up, lighting and the make up and dress of the model to create a wonderful portrait.
Robert
26 Feb 2021 7:34AM

Quote:you've asked this image to be critiqued.
To be honest i find little to remark upon, except may be for the lack of showing the hands which I assume would be placed in her lap.
it is my impression that the model does not seem fully relaxed.
on the other hand I would say that the dress and makeup and also her facial structure would fit in a timeframe (late 1800's??) you have captured. I do wonder whether the overall space around the model is a bit generous, as she seems a bit lost in it.
But as a whole it is a good period portrait and you can see that a lot of effort was put into both the set up, lighting and the make up and dress of the model to create a wonderful portrait.
Robert



Thank you for the CC Robert, When the Moodboard was being created, we landed on the Artist Thomas Gainsborough as our Inspiration.
clevercloggs Plus
16 251 15 Netherlands
26 Feb 2021 7:38AM
I looked up when Gainsborough lived... it appears that i am about 100 years out, as he lived in the 1700's.
But am already happy that he is not a contemporary painter...Grin
you captured that epoch very well in your image.

Robert
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1832 England
26 Feb 2021 8:20AM
As it was my suggestion to post here, I reckon I need to be one of the first to comment...

A crucial factor is that this is straight from the camera, and not processed, if I read things correctly. As such, it's rather well done. You've clearly researched well, and have achieved a very definite look of an old painting in many ways.

Compositionally, the model is very central indeed, and an offset position would possibly give more life to the picture. However, artists are often less picky than photographers, so this adds to the Gainsborough feel. Similarly, as a quick visit to Sky Arts 'Portrait Artist of the Year' programmes will show, the hands probably aren't an issue for a painter. I'm less sure about Gainsborough, though.

It would be really good to have full EXIF, and more information generally.

Technically, you used a single light source (part of the EXIF would tell me whether it was natural or artificial - I suspect the latter as there are reasonably strong shadows, suggesting a single smallish source. Speedlight with a small softbox, perhaps?) This may be the reason for a lack of shadow detail - not really a problem with the background, but definitely an issue with the model's face. Looking at a few Gainsborough images online, I suspect that he used diffused daylight, which is relatively hard to replicate with flash or continuous artificial lighting.

The 'feel' of the image really is true to Gainsborough, with both costume and the sketched-in background.

I'd like to know more about lighting and camera data - this is good, but I really feel it could be even better, with some luminosity in the shadows - you may be able to achieve this from a second edit, if you shoot RAW files as well as JPG.
Robert51 12 7 121 United Kingdom
26 Feb 2021 8:28AM
What a great image and I always feel that looking and learning from the past helps us move forward ourselves. The idea being their ideas add to our own, not just trying to copy them.

The besides the crop etc I added a paint effect and a canvas filter from PS. The main thing that made the image was while adding a curves layer by taking the bottom left cornerup a little it adds a noir effect that helps to tone down the colours in a muted way.
I hope you like and helps to add to the ideas toolbox.
26 Feb 2021 8:30AM

Quote:As it was my suggestion to post here, I reckon I need to be one of the first to comment...

A crucial factor is that this is straight from the camera, and not processed, if I read things correctly. As such, it's rather well done. You've clearly researched well, and have achieved a very definite look of an old painting in many ways.

Compositionally, the model is very central indeed, and an offset position would possibly give more life to the picture. However, artists are often less picky than photographers, so this adds to the Gainsborough feel. Similarly, as a quick visit to Sky Arts 'Portrait Artist of the Year' programmes will show, the hands probably aren't an issue for a painter. I'm less sure about Gainsborough, though.

It would be really good to have full EXIF, and more information generally.

Technically, you used a single light source (part of the EXIF would tell me whether it was natural or artificial - I suspect the latter as there are reasonably strong shadows, suggesting a single smallish source. Speedlight with a small softbox, perhaps?) This may be the reason for a lack of shadow detail - not really a problem with the background, but definitely an issue with the model's face. Looking at a few Gainsborough images online, I suspect that he used diffused daylight, which is relatively hard to replicate with flash or continuous artificial lighting.

The 'feel' of the image really is true to Gainsborough, with both costume and the sketched-in background.

I'd like to know more about lighting and camera data - this is good, but I really feel it could be even better, with some luminosity in the shadows - you may be able to achieve this from a second edit, if you shoot RAW files as well as JPG.



Thank you for the CC, as soon as I can get to my computer I値l get the full spec. I shoot RAW only (Jpg as well would make the D810 files huge), if memory serves me correctly there was a large Softbox Camera Left. 1/250 @ f7.1 (I知 guessing as that痴 my usual base setting), I could have possibly done with a Reflector right to bounce a small amount back.
26 Feb 2021 8:36AM

Quote:What a great image and I always feel that looking and learning from the past helps us move forward ourselves. The idea being their ideas add to our own, not just trying to copy them.

The besides the crop etc I added a paint effect and a canvas filter from PS. The main thing that made the image was while adding a curves layer by taking the bottom left cornerup a little it adds a noir effect that helps to tone down the colours in a muted way.
I hope you like and helps to add to the ideas toolbox.



Thank you, The Edit looks amazing, I知 not too sure about the crop as I was trying to keep the Gainsborough effect, but the Paint effect & Canvas filter you added look great (I must try to find out more about these filters!). 😊😊😊
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1832 England
26 Feb 2021 8:38AM
Thank you for the rapid response!

I think that a reflector would have been a good idea - and looking back, you didn't actually say, in your description, that you'd not done any processing... At the least, you did a conversion from RAW, and that allows for a lot of work on contrast, highlights and shadows, so please tell us as much as possible.
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1832 England
26 Feb 2021 8:40AM
Extra thought - if you use 'Save as' rather than 'Save for web' the site will automatically pick up the EXIF (unless you upload via another device or website). I believe this also includes details of PS work, which I know some people can read, though i really struggle with getting anything out of it!
26 Feb 2021 8:47AM

Quote:Extra thought - if you use 'Save as' rather than 'Save for web' the site will automatically pick up the EXIF (unless you upload via another device or website). I believe this also includes details of PS work, which I know some people can read, though i really struggle with getting anything out of it!


Thank you for the tip, with the D810 I'm working with a 36mp image, so always up against upload size problems.
dudler Plus
17 1.6k 1832 England
26 Feb 2021 8:55AM
Hi again, Richard -

There isn't an upload file size problem with EPZ. I always upload full-size 42mp files form my Alpha 7R III, and the site resizes. The only limitation is the speed of your local broadband.

This means that - as technical stuff allows - the files displayed can be larger and higher quality. When I joined, there was a 1,000 pixel limit, later raised to 2,000 - but for several years, anything has gone.
Owdman Plus
5 6 19 United Kingdom
26 Feb 2021 9:42AM
Hi Richard,

I just felt the background and colour palette were more Rembrandt than Gainsborough, so I used colour match in photoshop to change the colour palette using a Gainsborough painting. (Portrait of Sarah Buxton) I then just adjusted the amount of change in colour to brighten the canvas. Gainsborough would probably have had more of the figure in and the complexion would either have been paler or perhaps slightly pinker depending on the subject.

Nice image, I always enjoy the chance to have a go at someone else's!

Norm
chase Plus
15 2.1k 562 England
26 Feb 2021 9:58AM
Hi Richard and welcome to the Critique Gallery.
My very first thoughts here were, too much room around the young Lady and quite dark.

I had a look at some of Gainsboroughs' work and he had a tendency to go a wee bit lighter with the skin paler.
So I did a mod, cropped, flipped the image horizontally, that just appealed to me more, the stare seemed more intense.
Lightened with a levels layer and brought up some of the shadows in her hair.

I did add a very light paint effect using Topaz Studio 2 not very much tbh but just enough to soften things a little.

I think I would have preferred to see her hands, nicely relaxed on her lap, her arms here just seem cut off.
Could have done with a reflector behind her just to drop a little light onto her arm and that lovely hair.

This is a good starting point Richard and shooting Raw gives you more possibilities and a bigger scope for your post processing.
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.7k 2395 United Kingdom
26 Feb 2021 12:39PM
I'm late here, but having come to appreciate Gainsborough relatively late in life I'll add a few thoughts.

Thinking of this specifically as an attempt to reproduce his style, the central placement for a solo subject is right, as is the direct, confident gaze, but there is too much space at the sides. The result looks flabby rather than concise. The cut-off hands are definitely wrong! Did you take any portrait format shots?

I would go with John's suggestion to use a reflector, the light needs to be more even - for your specific project.

Most of Gainsborough's work was about making the landed gentry look good in the setting of their private estates. Backgrounds matter: think parkland plus the odd Classical folly. The background here is dark and neutral, that doesn't look Gainsborough! The lightened modifications are a massive improvement.
Moira
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4227 Canada
26 Feb 2021 3:40PM
Its an excellent image and does indeed resemble a painting.

I would point out this this one here is not straight from the camera,, and has had some post processing applied, - not at all surprisingly

The finer point of the style of the original painter is well discussed above.

I did take the liberty of attempting a modification.


Well done


Regards


Willie
Fefe Plus
9 57 36 United Kingdom
26 Feb 2021 4:24PM
I have given the image a crop to make the eyes on the third of the image. If the hands had been present I would not have cropped so much.
The blacks were a little underexposed so I have lifted them where clipped.
I love the shadows in the image but I lifted the luminance in the skin slightly.
Lovely image.
dark_lord Plus
17 2.8k 761 England
28 Feb 2021 6:48PM
I'm late here too but you;ve done a very good job.
The mods just demonstrate how much can be done depending on interpretation.
Having her so centrally placed in a landscape format is, if I could only alter one aspect, is change so she's more to one side with more room in front of her. That would, very likely, get you some User Awards.

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