The happiest wall

Fun, quirky observation. The sort of thing that you want to remember. It suffers, as I'm sure you are aware, from slight camera shake, a yellowish cast, and noise arising from the high ISO; plus there is a slight tilt. I would have wanted to go in closer - [i]Ellas siempre ganan[/i] is the story here for me. The women always win, I like that... I've uploaded a Modification - I converted to hard, contrasty b&w which disposed of the colour cast distraction, rotated a bit to get the central verticals looking as near to true as they are ever likely to here, cropped to concentrate on fewer, more significant details, and added a dark vignette. Moira

Fun, quirky observation. The sort of thing that you want to remember. It suffers, as I'm sure you are aware, from slight camera shake, a yellowish cast, and noise arising from the high ISO; plus there is a slight tilt.

I would have wanted to go in closer - Ellas siempre ganan is the story here for me. The women always win, I like that...

I've uploaded a Modification - I converted to hard, contrasty b&w which disposed of the colour cast distraction, rotated a bit to get the central verticals looking as near to true as they are ever likely to here, cropped to concentrate on fewer, more significant details, and added a dark vignette.
Moira

I wouldn't necessarily call it beautiful, Diego, but I would have had to photograph it, as you did, because it's someone's idea of decorating a wall with everyday objects and paraphernalia, and why not? Its randomness and peculiar decoration are what make it intriguing, it's quite unique and really offbeat. For some reason, I want to see more, just to see how far it stretches. The first and most obvious problem is the colour cast. You were shooting indoors and needed to adjust your white balance according to the light within the building. If you are unsure, run through the white balance menu, watching how the image changes, and choose the setting that best replicates what you are looking at. The perceived colour of a scene is affected by the colour of the lighting under which it is viewed. Our vision compensates for different types of light, so we see that a sheet of white paper is white, whether it’s viewed by candlelight or in twilight, but your camera doesn’t. It records what’s in front of it, which can lead to pictures that are too ‘warm’ or too ‘cool’. As to the difficulty you encountered with the light level, you might have done better to use your flash. At least you would have got a good image and some extra light on your subjects. But the light that's created by the built-in flash can be a little harsh, so try diffusing it with tissue paper, or position a piece of white card to the side or above the flash. Pamela.

I wouldn't necessarily call it beautiful, Diego, but I would have had to photograph it, as you did, because it's someone's idea of decorating a wall with everyday objects and paraphernalia, and why not? Its randomness and peculiar decoration are what make it intriguing, it's quite unique and really offbeat.
For some reason, I want to see more, just to see how far it stretches.

The first and most obvious problem is the colour cast. You were shooting indoors and needed to adjust your white balance according to the light within the building. If you are unsure, run through the white balance menu, watching how the image changes, and choose the setting that best replicates what you are looking at. The perceived colour of a scene is affected by the colour of the lighting under which it is viewed. Our vision compensates for different types of light, so we see that a sheet of white paper is white, whether it’s viewed by candlelight or in twilight, but your camera doesn’t. It records what’s in front of it, which can lead to pictures that are too ‘warm’ or too ‘cool’.

As to the difficulty you encountered with the light level, you might have done better to use your flash. At least you would have got a good image and some extra light on your subjects. But the light that's created by the built-in flash can be a little harsh, so try diffusing it with tissue paper, or position a piece of white card to the side or above the flash.

Pamela.

Of course, the colour is part of the appeal, so I had to try to correct the white balance. I'm far less expert at this than Willie is, and while I've posted something, I'm not very happy with the result. There's somethign really odd about tonality and saturation, as well. I wonder - does this sort of problem matter to you, Diego? It's easy to get too involved with the technical side, I know: but I feel that there's a lot to be said for getting several layers into the technical issues, so that you can make the picture look the way you really want it to, reliably (and that's the aim of hte Critique Gallery, I think)

Of course, the colour is part of the appeal, so I had to try to correct the white balance. I'm far less expert at this than Willie is, and while I've posted something, I'm not very happy with the result. There's somethign really odd about tonality and saturation, as well.

I wonder - does this sort of problem matter to you, Diego? It's easy to get too involved with the technical side, I know: but I feel that there's a lot to be said for getting several layers into the technical issues, so that you can make the picture look the way you really want it to, reliably (and that's the aim of hte Critique Gallery, I think)

I just had to have a go at this! The white balance tool in Lightroom was no help at all; it might have worked on the original raw, assuming tat there was one, of course but it was useless on this. Instead, I made various tweaks to the vibrance and saturation, then opened that result in CS6 and made more adjustments, desaturating the blue and red channels (by guesswork), then a curves adjustment and finally a sharpening. Strictly speaking, it doesn't need the extra sharpening and it did add some noise but it also raised the contrast a bit, which was what I was after. It's still not really right and it's probably streets away from what you intended in the first place! Hope this helps. Bren.

I just had to have a go at this!

The white balance tool in Lightroom was no help at all; it might have worked on the original raw, assuming tat there was one, of course but it was useless on this.
Instead, I made various tweaks to the vibrance and saturation, then opened that result in CS6 and made more adjustments, desaturating the blue and red channels (by guesswork), then a curves adjustment and finally a sharpening.
Strictly speaking, it doesn't need the extra sharpening and it did add some noise but it also raised the contrast a bit, which was what I was after.
It's still not really right and it's probably streets away from what you intended in the first place!

Hope this helps.

Bren.

I will go to the wall again and maybe during the day, to have a better light and to get in closer to the graffiti "ellas siempre ganan". Then i will upload more pictures, and you can continue helping me improve in my photography skills. And i have a question. I've noticed that you don't like the yellow light, but why? Its because is very distracting? or the picture loses a lot of details? Diego

I will go to the wall again and maybe during the day, to have a better light and to get in closer to the graffiti "ellas siempre ganan". Then i will upload more pictures, and you can continue helping me improve in my photography skills.

And i have a question.
I've noticed that you don't like the yellow light, but why? Its because is very distracting? or the picture loses a lot of details?

Diego

You need to use colour channels, but my problem is the utter confusion of it all. Quite an interesting time looking at all the different objects, but no real order to it and a bit soft. The latter is the main problem. You needed this pin sharp. Paul

You need to use colour channels, but my problem is the utter confusion of it all. Quite an interesting time looking at all the different objects, but no real order to it and a bit soft.

The latter is the main problem. You needed this pin sharp.

Paul

[quote][i]I've noticed that you don't like the yellow light, but why?[/i][/quote] You'll usually get the yellow effect that you have here by shooting indoors with the lights on but using a daylight setting on your camera. In other words, the white balance has been set incorrectly. Consequently, we're all assuming that that's the case here and have tried to correct it. On the other hand, of course, perhaps the light in the room really was that colour, or you've chosen to make it look that way.

Quote:I've noticed that you don't like the yellow light, but why?

You'll usually get the yellow effect that you have here by shooting indoors with the lights on but using a daylight setting on your camera. In other words, the white balance has been set incorrectly.
Consequently, we're all assuming that that's the case here and have tried to correct it.
On the other hand, of course, perhaps the light in the room really was that colour, or you've chosen to make it look that way.