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the thrashers

By williamsloan
this is the image as it came from the camera i would like help in processing

Tags: General thrashing

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dudler Plus
15 719 1376 England
10 Aug 2018 2:54PM
I'd say a very simple route from here. I used Adobe Camera Raw (a filter in Photoshop, an option under 'File' in Elements) and reduced exposure by half a stop, then pulled highlights back as much as I could.

The highlights are still a little too light, and lacking in detail - if you have a RAW file, you may be able to recover more detail from that, using hte same approach.

The basic problem is that it's a bit overexposed - on a sunny day (I can see shadows on the grass) I'd expect around 1/125 at f/18 for the directly sunlit parts, and maybe 1/125 at f/8 for the shadows. High contrast like this requires some exposure compromise, and here, the exposure is havily biased towards getting detail in the shadows. Manual metering works, but only if you work hard at it, and assess what you want dark, and what light, before you set the exposure. Aperture priority (or Program or Shutter) would very possibly have given a more accurate result in this situation.

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Irishkate Plus
7 41 114 United Kingdom
10 Aug 2018 8:54PM
John has made a good recovery job Billy.
Mush as we love sunshine it does create problems.
KateGrin
stevenb Plus
15 265 7 England
10 Aug 2018 11:23PM
I've adjusted image in Adobe CC, First I have created image which is a J peg to open in Camera raw, Then turned down the Highlights and white also reduced the exposure slightly . Because I've adjusted Highlights and white and exposure. I've opened up the shadow area. On the down side I think because I only had a small file size I think its created a freckled effect in the light area of sky.

Hope I've help a little
Bill
dudler Plus
15 719 1376 England
11 Aug 2018 6:42AM
banehawi's (Willie's) mod adjusted the white balance in a way that has given a much better look than I achieved...
mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.3k 1946 United Kingdom
11 Aug 2018 1:59PM
I'm a bit late here but I have added my mod. The problem is the classic weekend event curse - bright sun high in the sky, beating down on white shirts and shiny paintwork... This did need about 2/3 stop less exposure, it's easier to work on under exposed than over exposed. Here that white shirt is a relatively small area in the frame but it's bang in front of my eyes and it really dominates!

I started in much the same way as John, with the Camera Raw filter in Photoshop. I warmed colour slightly, then reduced exposure by 2/3 stop, darkened highlights and also reduced contrast. Then I worked in Adobe Elements because I find it more intuitive... You can reproduce much of the first bit in Elements except using brightness adjustment rather than exposure.

This retrieved some detail in the two white sacks on the left for example, but didn't do much for the shirt. There really is very little detail available there.

I isolated the white shirt and to be honest I cheated. I selected a grey for the paintbrush tool and painted in the shirt at just 5% opacity. That tones it down and because the detail that is there is grey you don't lose it. I found this more natural looking than trying to adjust highlights any further.

Then I used Inverse to work on the rest of the image. I added back some contrast and did a bit of dodging and burning - huge brush, very low exposure - to get some textures into the grass and the machinery on the left, and keep the steam visible against the dark trees.

My advice in a situation like this would be to try several different exposures and see which works best when you can review them properly. But as I said at the start - it's easier to work on under exposed areas than over exposed!

And consider shooting Raw files, it's more work but it does give you one helluva lot more data to work on! JPEG files automatically edit data down to around 25% to 30% of what is available, the rest is discarded and cannot be retrieved. Raw files give you practically 100% to play with...
Moira
Chinga Plus
7 3 1 United Kingdom
11 Aug 2018 10:35PM
I can't help technically Billy but I find it an interesting composition ...
Isabel GrinGrin
paulbroad 11 123 1256 United Kingdom
12 Aug 2018 8:39AM
Good content but the initial exposure is over and you will never get a perfect image from it. You need to check the result on the LCD after shooting and the over exposure should be obvious. Correct and re-shoot.

However, you are on manual, so why did you choose 1/30 sec at f18? The wrong settings completely I fear. F8 would do with corresponding much shorter shutter speed. And you would be better using auto white balance than not being sure what to set. I suspect your 'preset 1' was a bit out.

Paul

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