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Tube rider

By Hedoman
Again surfer at Nazare. Taken from a great distance and cropped tight.

Tags: Surfer Tubing Sports and action tubing wave

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mrswoolybill Plus
16 3.5k 2563 United Kingdom
14 Nov 2017 2:26PM
Rude words, my modification has uploaded twice, I'll try to get that sorted...

This is strong! It also poses interesting compositional questions, normally we want to see space for a sportsman to move into but here the interest is in that arc of surf and the space on the right seems redundant. Everything moves towards the figure, rather than him moving into space. Central placement also reduces the dynamic effect. So I have cropped to nearly square. I'd like a true square because I'm fussy about such things, you mention cropping so it would be useful to see the original.

I also lightened the surfer slightly and did some very gentle dodging and burning on the water bottom left.

I think you have done some work on that bottom left corner, probably the clone tool - there's a pattern of horizontal bands. Again, it would be useful to see the original.
dudler Plus
19 2.0k 1966 England
14 Nov 2017 4:21PM
Moira's said it all. I was thinking fo a crop on the right, too - maybe not so much, but close.

Nothing else to add - this is a beautiful 'design' picture. It transcends genres because of the strong shapes.
paulbroad Plus
15 131 1294 United Kingdom
14 Nov 2017 4:36PM
This is very strong and much better with adequate resolution. The figure is still under exposed and needs lightening. I would not crop, it looks wrong. Central does not matter if it works, as here, and it just needs some of the brighter areas of spray burning in with some dodging bottom left.

dark_lord Plus
18 3.0k 835 England
14 Nov 2017 9:14PM
The cop works for me, though both are pleasing images, it depends on how they are used/presented.

Either way, much better with the surfer lightened. The 'problem', if you like, is a dark wetsuit and sunlit spray creating a very high contrast range so some post processing is needed to get the best out of the image. You've kept detail in the spray which is good, and with shadow detail that can be recovered, which is the preferred way, as if you'd given more exposure at the time of capture you'd risk losing highlight detsil that can't be recovered.
Hedoman 15 2 England
14 Nov 2017 10:15PM
I have put an untouched image next frame. Cant put the original one on as it is a RAW file
dudler Plus
19 2.0k 1966 England
15 Nov 2017 11:07AM
Thanks, Steve -

This new shot is wonderfully soft, and allows a great range of processing - it actually looks as if it's an untweaked conversion from RAW.

Therefore, I wonder if there's soemthing about the way you converted the original post from RAW which gave it the harshness that we've all commented on.

My mod doesn't take the contrast as high as it might - I think this may lead to a whole new line of thought on processing your shots.
Hedoman 15 2 England
15 Nov 2017 12:09PM
Hi Dudler.
Thats straight from the camera untouched JPEG I cant put RAW images on here. You can see the actual distance and how much I have zoomed in to get the image as shown in the first pic. The only editing I use is what is supplied with my PC.
dudler Plus
19 2.0k 1966 England
15 Nov 2017 6:43PM
The next question is what software do you use to convert RAW files?

A 'straight' conversion will be soft, more like you JPG than the original post. I think members of the Critique Team have suggested that taking control of processing will allow you greater control and better images than relying on the basic settings, and I think this shot proves it...
Hedoman 15 2 England
15 Nov 2017 6:55PM
I shoot in RAW and JPEG but never do anything with the RAW files. If anyone wants a copy I can send them the RAW to edit themselves.
dark_lord Plus
18 3.0k 835 England
15 Nov 2017 7:17PM
If you don't do anything with the RAW fles then you could consider shooting jpg only.
But of course, you couldn't then go and revisit the RAW files at some point and extract a well processed image, if needed.

Shooting at a distance through moist air will result in lower contrast image, whatever file format you shoot, so some post processing will be needed.

So, you use the software that came with your PC, but what is the software? Knowing that will help understand your results as it may be the software you've got doesn't allow such fine control as does, for example, Photoshop Elements.
banehawi Plus
18 2.9k 4333 Canada
19 Nov 2017 3:01PM
Loaded a mod similar to the latest. In this, you are pushing contrast way, way too high. The mod has contrast set to -22. You can see how different it looks

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