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Under the Caledonian Railway Bridge.

By Vambomarbleye
Hi there. This is my first upload. Taken earlier this week underneath the railway bridge over the river Clyde in Glasgow. Trying to capture the reflections and the "mood". I would really have preferred a lower viewpoint but didn't want to fall in. Was going to convert to B&W but still trying to figure out the best way to do so, I'm still learning this digital stuff. Any comments would be much appreciated.

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Merlin_k Plus
14 39 13 United States
30 Jul 2017 1:33PM
Hi Alan
Interesting shot, good reflections.
You have a couple of options for converting to B&W.
Personally I like Adobe Lightroom. It is a useful way to store and file all your images and it allows a reasonable level of post processing.
A massive step up is Adobe Photoshop, doesn't allow for filing but does give an incredible level of editing control.
Now, the great news is that Adobe now offer both of theses (and a lot more) at a monthly fee of $9.99 which is actually a really good deal if you will use Photoshop. If you really will only use Lightroom then worth considering buying the stand alone version at $69.99 as Creative Cloud (although difficult to track down how to buy it, Adobe really want you paying monthly).
Once you have either of these then you can buy presets which will quickly make alterations for you, such as Contrastly. You will probably find a few that you like and generally stick to these although there are hundreds to use. There are also add-ons such as Google Nik, which is free. I have only just started using Google Nik myself but, as far as I can see, it offers a practical step in between Lightroom and Photoshop.
Hope this helps, feel free to message me if you have any other questions.
And welcome to what I think is a fantastic site. If you want specific advice on images that you upload then mark them for critique (one of the tick boxes at the bottom of the photo submission form). You then won't be able to get any votes on the image but there is a critique team who will look at the images and give you really useful feedback on how you can improve them.
30 Jul 2017 1:36PM
Hi and welcome to EPZ. You'll find that there is a wealth of knowledge on here and members are always willing to help.

Great first image. I would suggest that standing a little to the left would have provided a more central perspective and added to the image, but that's personal choice.

Regarding mono, are you using Photoshop, or Lightroom? If so, conversion is simple and both will give you ability to play around with the individual colour channels to achieve the effect you want. In PS you can use the B&W adjustment layer and the gradient map will also give a great conversion. You can use a combination of these. There is also specialist software available such as Silver Effects Pro, but I don't use these myself.

Once we know what you are using, then more detailed help can be given. The key point for me is that you always shoot in RAW, as more information can be retrieved in overexposed areas.

Vambomarbleye 5 153 14 Scotland
30 Jul 2017 2:29PM
Thanks for the response guys. I have just started using Photoshop Elements to make basic adjustments, contrast, brightness etc. Have found some good videos on you tube and have been playing about with it but there's a lot to learn and sometimes I think the results are too extreme looking. Is it actually possible to produce an authentic looking B&W "Darkroom" print from an inkjet printer?
Thanks again
Merlin_k Plus
14 39 13 United States
30 Jul 2017 3:53PM
A fine hand is important. Too many images get over-processed. And then it becomes obvious to the eye.
But yes, you should be able to get a good print from a decent printer.
30 Jul 2017 4:05PM
Hi Alan
I had Elements originally and it was pretty basic, i.e. a severely cut down version of Photoshop. I'm not too familiar with later versions, but do recall from reading articles in Digital Photo magazine, that later incarnations have taken on more of the PS features and hopefully you will find those adjustment layers I referred to in your software. I forgot to mention the channel mixer adj layer, which is also a very useful tool and can produce some excellent faux infrared images. Tick the monochrome box and play around with the channels. The value should always = 100.

It is so easy to overcook an image and the extent of editing is always down to personal preference. If it looks too much, then it probably is and only you can control that. I would follow Merlin's advice and ask for critique and you will surely learn from the comments you receive.

Regarding printing, I experimented extensively with inkjet printing until I found DS Colourlab in Manchester. I've not had anything printed for some time, but their prices are on the website and the print quality is excellent. They would produce an 18 x 12 inch print for around 1, which I found cheaper than buying inks and paper. Also, their results are consistent and delivered well packaged within a couple of days. To obtain the best results, you will need to download their colour profiles and apply these to images before submission. In PS you would go to Edit / Convert to Profile and their profiles should appear in the drop down list. Do not use Assign Profile.

Hope this helps and regards

Alfie_P 15 927 2 United Kingdom
20 Apr 2020 5:04PM
Damn good for your first post.

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